The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(01-27-2020, 02:36 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-27-2020, 04:25 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(01-27-2020, 12:08 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: For what it's worth, I've never viewed us as being all that far apart domestic policy wise. We differed greatly on foreign policy and global policy. I don't have an attachment to a political party/term or an attachment to a particular side of an old forum or a group here either at this point. Like I side, the Democratic party completely turned me (lost my support) off long ago. So, I tend to vote Republican these days. I'm pro American worker, pro American family, pro American rights and pro American overall. I guess that what makes me more in line with the Tea Party today. I'm not so much dreaming it, I'm seeing it's influence with Republicans these days.

One problem is that your view on things like policy oversimplifies, and you are inclined to demonize those who do not oversimplify the same way.  That makes you an easy target.  My approach assumes everybody has their own well justified perspective, and the view of the situation is not complete until you have included all the perspectives.  (And that does not even count angles like astrology, which are not justified, but some people view it as if they were valid.)

Problems like the Middle East and the Republicans are not simple or limited to a few things.  I mean, the economic way of looking at things from the middle of the country is fine, but you have to be aware that the Middle East is switching from Agricultural Age values to modern and that is always ugly.  The Republican Party has been infected with racism, elites allegiance and loyalty to specific groups.  You cannot just ignore these for an economic view.

From my perspective, much jumping around between ways of looking at the world is required.  Bringing it back to one approach is just incomplete.

Bob, I notice that you keep using racism and continue imposing/applying racism and continue going along the so called liberal view/accusation of us and the party that we support as being racially driven and motivated and so forth. Yes, I understand you're need for jumping around and including a bunch irrelevant information/ liberal nonsense and ignoring sentences that get straight to the heart/center of an issue directly related to you and the so called liberal party that you support these days vs playing your game and fucking around with you.

Did you know that there are 21 million pro-life Democrats who live in this country who are free to switch their allegiance at anytime? Did you know that there are also millions of American workers associated with American unions who are free to switch their political allegiance at anytime as well? Now, if you want to stick to the heart and stick to emotional pleas and continue with trying to use guilt or shame or false accusation or demonizing or imposing fear as a means and stick to doing whatever else the so called liberals are doing or telling/showing you to do these days that's fine with me because I don't care if the so called liberals continue digging your graves and continue breaking American laws, ignoring constitutional process's, continue supporting left wing lunatics and their crazy ideas and continue turning off more good American people and continue burning bridges with most of America itself.

The problem is, Republican voters (such as yourself) are opposed to taxes because some of it (very little actually) goes for welfare to poor people, which are more often non-white. Thus these ethnic groups and races are scapegoats for Republicans' opposition to paying taxes, and their support for trickle-down economics. "I don't want my tax money going to these lazy people who don't work" is the leading slogan and appeal of the Republican Party, especially in the rural counties. And racism is part of the motivation because of who (they think) gets that money, and whom the Republicans don't want to spend their tax money on. And immigrants are also among those which Republicans don't want to support, but to restrict. Anti-immigration policy and politics in the USA has always been racist.

If we stop seeing these slogans and attitudes, then we will stop saying that racism is part of Republican Party policy.

Of course, if things like astrology are not included in a view of "all the perspectives," that view is not complete. It is certainly better justified than trickle-down economics and the racist dog-whistle it sounds. But, like everything else, it helps to actually understand other perspectives than your own. That doesn't happen too often.