The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(01-28-2020, 01:05 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-28-2020, 05:53 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(01-28-2020, 03:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-27-2020, 11:32 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: These days, cities are getting more expensive to live in, especially on the coasts. Poor people can't afford to live in San Francisco or New York anymore. Liberal white people are more likely to live there, unless they are rich liberal non-white people. Maybe what you say about the hood applies to some other cities like Detroit, Milwaukee or Baltimore, but gentrification is also happening in some of these cities. The urban areas are where the jobs are and where the interesting people live. Young, bright people don't live in red, rural areas where people vote by 8 to 1 margins for Trump. These people are dumb and boring. Young people want opportunity and fun. So they move to blue cities, and leave the red areas to those who prefer a declining banana republic or who feel abandoned, resentful and stuck there and drugged up. 

Dude, anything we support or oppose can be viewed or labelled as racist at this point. So, whatever, keep doing it and pray that your leadership doesn't hurt you worse than it's hurting you know with us, does anything stupid that actually impacts us and requires a nasty response  or your state doesn't get itself further in trouble  and collapse. You should also know that when you call  people racists who aren't racists those people will be offended/insulted. Now, I'd love to have an opportunity to challenge one the  dumb  racist blacks or one of them dumb sexist women or dumb Islamic racists or dumb narcissists or dumb socialists of yours in House today. Also, I wouldn't advise that you  continue using us as your scapegoats either. I mean, I watched as people were getting beaten by angry minorities in the streets of LA during the 90's.

Your part of the Right -- working-class white people who support the Tea Party politically -- does not establish the economic ethos that has developed almost without a break for forty years. The real rulers, the asset owners and bureaucratic elites, on have successfully imposed an ethos in which on behalf of their swinish selves, everything possible becomes a privilege of high price, toil becomes a harsh duty with minuscule reward, and life becomes a grim struggle for what should never be a privilege -- survival. Monopolization and vertical integration get the reward of tax cuts for classes that get the passive income of economic rent which has become the majority of income. We get an illusion of prosperity while more of us go poor despite working harder and longer under harsher discipline. So we have increasingly blatant expressions of indulgence in a society that increasingly resembles a Marxist stereotype of capitalism.

We even have our 'opiate of the masses' in dumbed-down entertainment as a diversion from thinking such 'troublesome' thoughts as the need to supplant the every-man-for-himself ethos that the Master Class has imposed. We get a celebrity circus as an anodyne. Wise people can see through it; fools accept it. You, Classic X'er, accept what the economic elites tell you. We even get someone who has made his income either as a landlord to people who must live in Greater New York to avail themselves of certain job opportunities or by supplying schlock entertainment. I found it easy to "fire" The Apprentice with my remote control. 

The conspicuous consumption of the Master Class does about as much good for most of us as did the expensive clothes, jewelry, and cars of wildly-successful criminals of the ghettos in the Boom Awakening to the desperately-poor. The choice of our economic elites, one that they can enforce, is that of cream for the princess' cat over milk for the baby of a farm laborer. Your part of the American political spectrum is the last, except for the amoral and rapacious elites who exploit us all, to recognize the reality of a sick society. The generational cycle itself is creating a desire for a child-friendly order. Severe poverty is not compatible with a child-friendly culture forming under your nose yet invisible to you.

The so called economic elites have little to no influence over me or my decisions related to me or my family. The American right isn't media or all that market driven these days. The American right is pretty much content with sticking to doing things and succeeding it's own way these days. The liberals on the other hand are less independent/mature/financially stable and more herd minded (cliquey) and more susceptible to both influences. Look at you, you're a prime example of the liberal mentality. I assume that you can picture yourself being mistreated (told where you messed up or why you failed or where you didn't do what you should have done) and fired by Trump which is why you hate Trump.

Yes, the American right is indeed "pretty much content with sticking to doing things and succeeding it's own way these days." It loves the neo-liberal, trickle-down economics status quo in which they get big tax breaks and are allowed to screw over their customers and workers, and have their prejudices against immigrants and the poor stroked and their fanatical religious "values" lauded. It's all just fine for them. But the rising younger and more diverse people on the left are not satisfied with an economic system that holds them down for no reason. They don't need to be influenced to know they are being screwed, or to know that climate change and gun violence are real issues that need to be dealt with. They are not brainwashed by the false ideologies of the Christian Right, militarism and neo-liberalism. The Left can see the 40-year trend of America downward toward banana republic status on every measurement you can find. They know that adopting an authoritarian system of government led by an unfit, ego-maniacal demagogue is not what America needs.