The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(02-06-2020, 12:48 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(02-06-2020, 03:29 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(02-05-2020, 08:18 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: We hear about shootings of police by people as surely as we hear about police shootings of innocent people. Mostly people who shoot cops get the full brunt of the law while police who murder people get off scot free.

Define murder...I understand that liberals with dunce caps have a hard time with the meanings of words they use these days. Do you really deserve to have a decent police force these days? I don't think so. Personally, I don't think a third rate group of people/politicians deserve to have a first rate police force these days.

Let me jump in here, as someone who has worked with police and other first responders, but isn't one of them.  Everyone has good points.  Police are people, and the people attracted to that field are just as diverse as the populous as a whole.  It is particularly attractive to men (mostly men) who enjoy the power they get from their positions.  Are they the majority?  No, I'm quite sure they aren't, but they are a large minority.  It's the ultimate macho field, if you still want to go home at night and sleep in your own bed.  So yes, there are bad cops, because the raw material is there in abundance.

Then there are guns.  I've talked with cops at all levels, from small town to FBI, and all have one issue in common (and this crosses the line between the good cops and the rest too).  Cops are out there in a world overloaded with firearms, many with military capabilities.  The degree of wariness is much higher than it was before the massive influx of firearms began in earnest 20+ years ago.

Is it likely that shootings occur because the cop felt he could?  Yes, but how many is arguable.  Is it also likely that shootings occur because of good old fashioned fear?  Yes again.  There is no argument that the first category is, or certainly should be illegal.  The second category is a lot harder.  You 2nd Amendment types may wish to give that some thought.

You people keep over looking known facts related to American law. Illegal gun purchase, illegal gun possession and illegal gun traffic are already viewed as against the law and the law/government already has to the right/power to take action and do something about them anytime it wants to these days. Why do you guys continue to overlook this? Is it your relationship with poor minorities and poor whites who are barely educated and primarily minority related communities that have a bad relationship with police and global crime organizations providing the bulk of the economics related to certain areas that's holding big city liberals back from doing their jobs and enforcing laws that are already on the books or what? Here's what I think, I don't think your liberal governments have the money or the facilities or the assets that it needs to protect itself and society from all the criminals that it has these days. Keep in mind, we don't live in Minneapolis or New York City or Chicago or Washington, DC or Baltimore or San Francisco or any other blue city that has all kinds of major problems. I'm not interested in having a liberal police chief or a liberal school administrator associated with a liberal movement who are afraid to address crime related issues or school related issues directly associated with groups of people who are affiliated with them. Like I said, I graduated from high school before the liberal double standards came into play.

Hint... A Mexican American Gen Xr my age of either sex is more likely to agree with my views and my views of them as equals than the views of a pampered liberal who was occupies an office for show or a liberal who obviously view of them as being inferior, incapable of learning and unworthy of having them doing the speaking for them and defending them these days. Funny, I hear a lot about racism and see a lot of finger pointing by those who don't seem able to understand what's driving their media or understands its obvious ties racist views that are still held by many liberals these days. Hint...Your racist speaker and her wealthy liberal contributor don't want them living any where near them. You can say what you want, but that's not going to change what we see or change what we are smart enough to pick up on or unfortunate enough to experience or learn first hand these day.