The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(04-12-2020, 06:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(04-12-2020, 03:27 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(04-12-2020, 02:40 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I have lots of integrity and cold logic.

If you define integrity as loyalty to red ideals, you have integrity.  I have a more scientific world view, and matching one’s theory to reality is kind of a big deal.  When you are willing to sacrifice meshing with reality in order to maintain the ideals, the perception is one of a lack of integrity.

(04-12-2020, 02:40 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: What they recognized was they couldn't win without doing what I did which was allow myself to come to your level and kick some ass and knock some sense into peoples heads. Do you see many hardcore liberals other than yourselves?

In Massachusetts?  Silly question.  Some areas see the problems that come with a high population density and wish to solve them.  Unfortunately, doing this on the national scale imposes on more rural populations in such a way to force changes they don’t prefer.  If you don’t encounter the problem, why would one wish to pay to solve it?  On the forums, I certainly do see as many or more progressives than conservatives.  You can’t ignore problems indefinitely.  This is especially true of the Coronavirus, where if you don’t recognize the virus it kills.  You can’t fake news or hoax it away.

Sometimes I wonder how well the rural idiots would last in the urban centers.  If things could be settled by knocking sense into people, the rural idiots would get into trouble real quick.  This is just not the place for idiots.  The theory is not advanced by spouting ideologies or making silly threats of violence.  Turning theory is supposed to be part of a scientific world view, making predictions in the real world.  Putting your ideology ahead of how well the theory fits reality or threatening violence when you can’t defend your ideology is not helpful.

Integrity has a meaning. I suggest that you look it up and learn what it means. I noticed that you spent more time advancing TFT theory and using it to advance the progressive agenda then you spent listening to me and other critics/skeptics back then and not caring much about the long term results or immediate impacts they'd have on millions of other people than us.

To be honest, I'm not impressed with science right now. Science seems to be all over the place right now. I've seen multiple models and multiple contradictions between scientists and multiple projections and multiple ideas of how the virus is able to spread and a few short term solutions that some scientists, medical people  and the liberal media vehemently reject as a viable solution. So, you represent the scientific worldview and scientific values, I'd say that they're both messed up right now. So, I'm going to stay with mine.

Corona virus 19 is too new for science to have definitive information on it. Cures are being worked on, but what is certainly not viable and certainly dangerous is for Trump to trumpet a cure that no science supports in the hope it might persuade America to lift shelter in place and go back to normal and thus allow the virus to spread even more.