The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(04-12-2020, 08:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(04-12-2020, 06:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Integrity has a meaning. I suggest that you look it up and learn what it means.

Just did.  My computer’s dictionary definition includes truthfulness.  That would totally exclude you.

(04-12-2020, 06:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I noticed that you spent more time advancing TFT theory and using it to advance the progressive agenda then you spent listening to me and other critics/skeptics back then and not caring much about the long term results or immediate impacts they'd have on millions of other people than us.

I advocate a real arrow of progress.  Each Crisis solves a particular problem in which the conservative faction would prefer to stick with the old ways of doing things.  Thus, I support democracy, the abolition of slavery, and the end to fascism.  Is it much of a surprise that I support saving the planet, saving lives, and honoring the scientific reporting?  The Agricultural Age was horrible.  Removing traces of it is a good thing, which I care about a lot.  Thus I speak against people who would rather stick to the ugliness than solve problems.

I do care a lot.

(04-12-2020, 06:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: To be honest, I'm not impressed with science right now. Science seems to be all over the place right now. I've seen multiple models and multiple contradictions between scientists and multiple projections and multiple ideas of how the virus is able to spread and a few short term solutions that some scientists, medical people  and the liberal media vehemently reject as a viable solution. So, you represent the scientific worldview and scientific values, I'd say that they're both messed up right now. So, I'm going to stay with mine.

Not shocked.  People will stick firmly to their values unless they see a collapse of the scale of Atlanta towards the end of the Civil War or Berlin towards the end of World War II.  You almost have to force people to recognize the new values, as dedicated as they are to the evils of the earlier time.  That it essentially how strong an event has to be to cause a culture to change, to make people change the world view.

I try to do what I can over the internet, but don't expect a lot.  The changes forced on the culture by the Coronavirus obviously do more than I can.  We will see if it is enough to wake up the sleepers.