The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(04-15-2020, 10:10 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(04-15-2020, 06:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I responded to the way you presented it. You gave me a slice of information and used a slice of information that's relevant to you and the way you think of yourself and us. Like you, I don't have the entire Constitution memorized. Now that you have been so kind as to provide the whole thing for us to read like you should have to begin with. Here's the problem and it's a problem and the problem is that we're going broke and the progressives haven't figured that out yet. We don't have enough billionaires to cover a trillion dollar debt let alone twenty two trillion with more and more being added every minute of the day. Now, if you want to remain part of that statement, you better wise up and start teaching your clueless millenial's and Bernie Bro's the truth. We seem to have an abundance of dumb college people these days.

I have an app on my Mac’s Dock that provides the text for the US Constitution.  It comes in handy several times a year to address some point on this site.  That was where I got the quote.  When you questioned it, casting doubt on my truth and integrity, I used Google to search ‘US Constitution text’ and followed the first of many links it provided.  This took all of 20 seconds, at most, to confirm the quote and have the link to it.  You could have done the same.  You didn’t.  Instead, you placed your ideology ahead of the Constitution.  You lied.  You showed your lack of integrity.

I do note that many of my posts do provide links to sources, while few of your posts do.  You spout lies off the top of your head.  The quote I provided was so easily confirmed that I did not think it necessary to create a link.  Silly me.

I hardly question that both party’s members of Congress have passed some very expensive but necessary Coronavirus legislation.  I am troubled that Congress is better at spending the money that saying how they would pay for it.  I am open to suggestions.  I am not aware of the Trump administration giving a long term financial plan.  He is apparently too busy trying to save face.  I am anticipating we will have to wait for another administration.  I anticipate a variation of the progressive era tax and spend.  I have said as much on other posts.  I have suspected that even the conservatives will accept high taxes for a while to pay the very real bills.

Rachel got her start as an AIDs activist, trying to get another conservative administration to wake up.  Now this pandemic is quite different from others in living memory.  The Coronavirus requires more of those on the front lines than has recently occurred.  Rachel is playing a different part… well.

I knew that it wasn't accurate the way it was presented. I didn't lie. You did the right thing. You corrected yourself. Good job. Where did you get that snip it from? I assume that you picked the parts of it that mattered the most to you and left out the rest of its obligations. Only you know if that's what you did or whether you passed on an inaccurate snip it by accident. As I mentioned a while back, Bush II had a choice between Hoover and FDR and he chose FDR. I never signed on to be the police of the world or signed on to welfare or signed on to fighting wars in Korea and Vietnam or the UN or making it so a bunch of Europeans break a thumb while sitting around twiddling them while bitching about us and go to a hospital have it fixed for free. So, why did we go in and confront the evil that be to stop Bosnian's from being slaughtered by Serbs while the so called greatest countries on earth with greatest people on sat around twiddling their thumbs, doing nothing and bitching about us.

Like I said, the working class Democrats will go along with anything as long as they're convinced that they're not on hook financially. I'd say old tax and spend is pretty much done. Bernie screwed up by being upfront and honest. Biden will have to be more tricky about doing it like Clinton. I lost a lot of tax deductions despite being promised that he was only going to increase the amount of taxes on those who made 250 and above. Back then, a person paid less in taxes if they were married. Back when I was single, I paid more tax that the married person making the same wage. Once I was married, I paid less tax than a single person. After Clinton's tax bill went into law, I was back to paying the same amount as a single person again. You're right about tribalism playing a role what you don't seem to understand is the red tribes are spread out right now. You might have a member of the red tribe who owns a mid sized business or small business or a bunch of red tribe millionaires or large red tribe contractors currently residing or working in your state.