The Partisan Divide on Issues

[gabrielle]

(04-22-2020, 12:40 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 07:27 PM)gabrielle Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 04:51 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 02:51 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 02:35 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: How much longer do you expect working  people to continue going without and sacrificing? You don't seem to be looking at the big picture as usual and you don't seem to be going through what they're going through right now either.

The big picture shows us the need for sacrifice. We are all going through this together.

Conservatives almost never see the big picture; that's why they are conservatives. They react to some personal incident and change their views on what's good for the country and their own interest based on that (e.g. Aspie Millennial). They are parochial and provincial. Rural people tend toward that direction; that's why they vote red by 4 to 1 margins.

We aren't all going through this the same way together. The so called big picture relating to blues in particular has always seemed limited compared to the Bigger Picture as it relates to the bulk of the country these days. You don't seem like the type who could kill a wild animal, gut it, skin it and butcher it without a problem. I doubt you would be able to go out and find fish to catch and be able to process them to eat either. Yes. The rural people may seem parochial and provincial and irrelevant to you.

Well, if all the "reds" know how to hunt and fish, then when the shit goes down and America dissolves into total socio-economic collapse you guys will instantly assemble into a sustainable hunter-gatherer society and everything will be hunky-dory, right?  Perhaps you can start raising crops to buy protection from local warlords against the roving brigands.

Here's the Bigger Picture: Lift social distancing too soon and the virus surges back, even stronger.  The health care system is overwhelmed, and we have "many more body bags," as the director of the WHO put it.  A large number of those in the body bags will be health care workers, a generation of medical expertise that cannot be replaced.  If you think the suffering and sacrifice we are dealing with now is bad, just you wait and see how much worse it can get.

The reds know how to hunt, fish, trap, manufacture just about everything, fix/repair, invest, manage money and business, operate machinery, grow crops, work with concrete, mine, cut and process lumber, engineer, manage hospitals and nurses, nurse, doctor and so forth. I don't think blues understand how much the reds do and how much the reds know how to do these days.

Well, good for them.  Just so you know, though, they do all those things in blue states too.  Even in blue cities within red states. 

I think we all agree the economy is f--cked. Blues are sacrificing just as much as reds.  Unemployment is likely around 15% or more right now, I've read.  But I'm not really sure what you expect people to do.  The economic crisis we have right now is because of the Covid crisis.  The economy is only ever as healthy as the working people driving it.  We have to beat this health crisis, and the only way to do that is to trust our health care experts.