The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Bob Butler 54]

(06-01-2020, 02:26 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I see that you excluded yourself AGAIN. It's sure nice of you to do that for yourself again Bob. I'll be nice too. I'll add in Dave for you. As I mentioned, socialism still exists within the Democratic party. You still have Bernie, AOC and a bunch of socialist minded Democrats in the House and the Senate, a bunch of academics pushing/promoting Marxism ( young attractive AOC is the is the living proof) and teaching racism and bigotry to their young  students too, a bunch of young  Democratic voters still  voting for socialism or socialist programs and a bunch Democratic still receiving handouts and still voting to keep their handouts and a bunch of Democratic politicians promising them  more handouts and socialist programs and passing new bills in Congress that are loaded with more handouts and socialist programs and new funding for new recipients who aren't legal yet.

I was informed by a close friend that he is no longer a Democratic voter and he considers himself an Independent voter now. It took him about fifteen years to start seeing things our way vs the liberal's/Demcrats way. I suggest that you and others start preparing for a parting of ways and start preparing for more violence. You're to ignorant/blind to realize, the Democratic buffer that used to keep the peace between the dominant cultures no longer exists these days. The American right isn't  going to dick around with ghetto slugs, left wing anarchists or college age morons who where masks, orchestrate riots  and   act like the ghetto slugs.    

Bob, you make the mistake of calling me a liar for telling you the truth and others the truth as I see it or know it and do it in a way that says you're not one yourself and you have never lied IN PUBLIC and you have never lied to me PERSONALLY. Well, all I have to say, there will be hell to pay.       Hint: No buffer means direct conflict between the Left and the American right is now evident and more likely going to happen from here on.

I don't disagree that socialism exists in the Democratic Party.  It is just that socialism can mean different things to different people, thus it makes a poor label.  Bernie Sanders and his crowd uses in in the European sense, that of government working for the people, the sense seen in the preamble to the US Constitution.  Most Republicans use it in the soviet and Asian sense, as the government working for the party, for the elites, for the owners of the means of production.  I am for the European form, against the Asian form, as are many Democrats.  But, because the word socialism means different things to different people, it makes a poor label.

I see you as a demonizer and liar for misrepresenting other's beliefs.  You criticize the demonized version of people, rather than what they actually believe.  You may sincerely believe your demonizations, but this sincere belief in a political fantasy is not an excuse to willfully remain ignorant of what people really believe.  It certainly doesn't block me from repeating the counters to your demonizations and lies.

Again, Marx correctly diagnosed the problem, but his way of solving the problem was a badly flawed failure which virtually no one is eager to repeat.  Even the Chinese Communist Party is working hand in hand with the capitalists these days.  This doesn't mean the problems of a grossly profiteering elite don't need to be solved.  Government for the few rather than the many is a problem.