The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(06-28-2020, 04:25 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(06-28-2020, 03:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-28-2020, 02:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(06-27-2020, 05:52 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Such as the above.  First, Nazi Germany was not a big fan of the Soviet Union.  I would think a regular at a history web site would know that, would not show his obvious ignorance so blatantly.  Second, Marxism is dead except to the extent that reds keep it alive in their delusions.  It is easier to rant against their obsessions than to deal with the real world.  Even the Chinese Communist Party works hand in hand with capitalist these days.  

A real complaint please?  Something that has something to do with reality?  Enough of your dream world?

Nope. The Fascists weren't fans of their Communist rivals. If Marxism is dead, then why are we watching so many of them tearing down statues us famous Americans associated with our history. Are you deaf, dumb and blind? Deaf, dumb and blind is the only acceptable excuse that you and others have right now. So Bob, if your Marxist nuts start terrorizing and oppressing southern Americans what do you think is going to start happening to liberal clowns in the American north. America is a big country that has a lot of American people who know the difference between them and what they stand for and (what) the naive movie stars, the musicians, liberal pop culture folks, liberal posters (like PB) and the quasi socialists/Marxists (support) who are attacking them now in areas where they can get away with it. Like I said, you better wise up and take a big breath because there is an American onslaught that's building right now and a lowering of tolerance that will be coming your way soon.

Eric keeps asking me to explain the difference between he and I, the Marxist who happens to live in America and the American, Marxist belief and American belief, Marxist values and American values and so forth. Right now, Marxist Minneapolis is surrounded by Americans. Do you want to know the difference between Minneapolis and St Paul. One is the state capital and the other isn't and therefore expendable. I don't know what the bend over, bow down, sway with the political wind corporate elites and political elites associated with DC and the northeast are going to do when America decides that they're not going to pay for their products or their tickets or their stadiums or their condo's or their trains or their bailouts and accept temporary losses and inconveniences and financial implosions and violence for the greater good of America and the American future like their ancestors did four score and seven years ago. You preach a lot, you talk a lot, you promote you're spin of history, you promote your spin of theory  and you do and say whatever you can to exclude yourself from the Marxist age mess that we can clearly see today.

As always, you are making so much hay out of so little, to further your "anti-Marxist, pro-American" propaganda. The statues of real historic Americans will stay-- or at least that's what most people want, so they will prevail after the current rage. The confederates are not famous Americans, but traitors, and no-one will miss their memorials.

Yes, I keep asking, and you keep dodging the question. Labeling us as "Marxists" and your guys as "Americans" does nothing to define what you think "American" means. The labels you throw around mean nothing. So the "Marxists" are "movie stars, the musicians, liberal pop culture folks?" Again, that means nothing. A list of entertainer types is not a set of ideas or ideals. So, are you saying that in your "America," entertainers are banned? That sounds more like Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany.

The Southern Confederates weren't traitors. The southern Confederates were Americans who lost the American Civil War, embraced American values and remained with the Union. You better wake up. You aren't speaking to a college idiot or a clueless or naive young pup that rolls with what they view/perceive as popular opinion on Snap chat, Facebook, Youtube or Twitter these days or another Marxist or an anarchist or a half wit with a mental health issue. I've labelled you a Marxist and you've labelled yourself a Marxist and so has Dave and so has Bob. You are all guilty of being associated with Marxism at one time or another and not letting go of it entirely. Yes, there is still hope with China still being around leaching off global capitalism and American capitalism and contributing large sums of money to colleges who teach it for them. Nope, none of this means nothing to you and you can ignore and dismiss it as usual.

You have not defined "American," but if you include in them the Confederates, who were traitors and declared independence and fought the bloodiest war in American history in order to keep their slaves, and spat on American values once re-united by continuing to hold the former slaves in bondage, then it does raise the red flag. If you label me a Marxist, then I can label you a racist. I consider that a fair trade. Since the Marxists have a very lousy record of governing in places like Russia, China and North Korea, I have never considered myself a Marxist, and the Confederates were no better, and are not much better even today by foisting upon us a government that doesn't care about our future or the economic fortunes of most of its citizens. The Confederates did not remain in the Union by choice, and by choice they have never been good Americans.

Are red and blue indeed going to be the same as the gray and the blue? It's up to you.