The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-19-2020, 11:40 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Bob, I'm going to be associated with racist oppression whether it's true or not at this point. You seem to be stuck on the Boogaloo Bois and seem pretty  clueless about much larger and more powerful  groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter.  I think it's very clear that liberals don't care whether what they say about other people and what they believe is actually true or not at this point. I get it, you've already committed and you can't go backwards at this point.  I can't touch you but I can touch one of you anytime time that I want at this point.   BTW, when we start responding to the Left and start playing tit for tat with the Left and the Left starts finding itself at odds with a much more powerful American  version of their own cancel culture their reign will come to an ugly and brutal end. I don't know who taught you that America can't be as mean or meaner and less sympathetic than the Left towards the Left these days but who ever did was either a fool or a liar.

I get my news from the major costal organizations, including CNN, the AP and MSNBC. I also visit YouTube frequently, and pick up many another point of view. I take these far more seriously than an obviously partisan rogue.

I see in these the motivations of the four organizations. The Antifa, anti fascists, opponents of the KKK and Neo Nazi, are willing to go violent if their opposition does and has. Black lives matter, who thinks black lives matter, opposes the centuries old racist violent tendencies of the bad cops. The Boogaloo Bois think that the establishment has failed, that only violence could correct the wrongs. These are basically Marxists without Marx, very similar in philosophy, but avoiding the reputation, language and history of Lenin, Stalin and Mao. They latch onto any protest on many topics and attempt to promote violence without caring much about what is being protested. Finally there are looters, more financially motivated than political, but see opportunity in exploiting political moments for their own gain.

In the simplest of worlds, people would have only one motivation. Everyone could be dropped in one and only one slot. I am quite willing to admit this is not the simplest of worlds. While each of these motives will gather those who support it, there could easily be those who follow more than one.

I myself have not bothered with Antifa, endorse Black Lives Matter, and think policing should be endorsed against the Boogaloo Bois and looters. No matter what name you use, all four motivations exist. I see most who would consider themselves blue concur.

Now there are some reds that twist these motives. I remember one incident where the local red activists decided that a family of tourists was secretly violent Antifa activists, and ‘defended’ the community from the tourists by cutting down enough trees that they could not leave. The family was rescued by people who used chainsaws to gather firewood and the local police. Make the world safe from family campers? The reds were entirely wrong about the motivations of the people harassed.

Now I have no reason to throw away the informations gathered from the major news organizations away in favor of similar twisted information from a partisan fanatic. For some reason Classic has a tendency to get his motivations confused. This is no surprise. As he cannot deal with the real blue motivations he makes up straw men that he can deal with. That is his major trick, a fairly useless one.