The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-26-2020, 04:05 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I don't represent the old Marxist laden Democratic values.

No one does.  This is a straw man creation created mostly from the red.  They cannot argue with the blue values, so they make up a perspective they can argue with.  I don't recognize myself or any other blue person in them.  You are missing things entirely.

(07-26-2020, 04:05 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I represent traditional American values that have withstood the tests of time. American culture itself is much stronger, much larger and much more powerful than it was back at the turn of the last century. I've been trying to tell you that for the last fifteen years but you don't want to listen.

You seem to be still sticking with Trump.  He stands for corruption, bypassing the Constitutional checks and balances, violence, killing Americans and Trump.  The election is essentially a referendum on how well he has done, and the broad consensus is badly.

Now when you speak for yourself, I have some sympathy.  Some.  The Republican push for small government, shunning science and ignoring progress have in my opinion gone far beyond the point of diminishing returns.  Well, so did the progressive attempt to solve everything by throwing money at it.  The cycles are real.  No matter which extreme you stand on you are apt to see your politicians overdo it.  The leaders of both sides are apt to take the approach that got them power too far.  I anticipate that the time will come again someday when the progressives go too far, but not soon.  Next unraveling, perhaps.  

But if you stand with Trump you are opposing the traditional American values.  A good number of your Americans have recognized this and decided to switch sides for an election or two.  I could see the Lincoln Project putting the conservative voters back together without the racist, elitist or corruption elements.  Such folks would make an honorable opposition, at least after the Democrats go beyond the point of deminising returns, which they inevitably will.

But if you posture with Trump's violence, ignoring checks and balance and selfishness, that isn't America.  Your calling it American will not make it so.  Other reds have seen it.  I don't think you love reality more than your ideology, so as of yet you have not.  You may choose not to see it.  It is up to you.