The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(08-17-2020, 12:52 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(08-16-2020, 09:26 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It used to be back in the early days of the bug there was a disagreement between those who values lives and those who valued the economy.  That tended to fade.  The models showed opening up the economy without first solving the health problem showed more death.  The smart people came to favor a short intent isolation followed by testing and tracing, as many foreign democracies did.  The happy talk people preferred to open up the economy while the curve was still going up.  The models predicted that would create a disaster, and sure enough a disaster came.

So your talking as if this is a viable option seems quite silly.

But I guess if you are into violence, racism, death, elitism, narcissism and lying, your values are just not mine.  They are also just not American.  Your pretense that Americans share your values are distinctly wrong.

At any rate, I anticipate we will see in November.

Bob, the vast majority (98-99%) are going to survive the COVID19 crisis. It's silly at this point and it's going to be quite costly for the Democratic states that are still playing games with peoples lives and causing more harm than good at this point. The Democratic consensus seems to be buckle down, hurt Trump as much as they can and force their people to put their lives on hold and wait for a cure. Well, that's fine for Democratic controlled areas but that's not going to fly with the Republican run areas.

Hurt Trump? If he didn't want his feelings hurt, then maybe he shouldn't have run for President. I'm sorry. With the Presidency comes huge responsibilities for the welfare of more than  300 million people. What the President feels matters far less than whether we are in a pointless war or not, whether the economy is going strong or is tanking, whether the international scene is becoming safer or more ominous, and, all in all, whether our personal lives are getting better than they otherwise might be. 

We Democrats are not playing with lives. Trump has done so, and that has been an unmitigated disaster. Over 170,000 Americans have died of something that should have been suppressed early. 

Oh, by the way -- if we had a motor-vehicle death rate as high as the death rate from COVID-19, then we would be doing something about it --  like reducing speed limits, reducing the legal level of BAC to zero, rushing computer control of cars, reviving the passenger rail industry, or banning night-time driving.       

Quote:I see violence on your side. I see racism on your side today. I see elitism on your side today. I see narcissism on your side and way more lying on your side today. Unlike you, I do watch some of your channels. The Republicans aren't saints but they're not nearly as bad or out of touch with reality. I think its pretty clear that red and blue values no longer match which isn't good for countries because values have to match for countries to remain together.

I see psychological projection in you. One bank robber once rationalized his armed robberies of banks by saying that banks are the biggest crooks of all. Or another example: the Nazis accused the Jews of an insidious plot to take over the world and exploit gentiles... and then started a war of conquest that had the subjection of non-Germans as an objective. 

You have some problems. I suggest that you get competent help with your violent thoughts before those lead you into doing great harm to others and ultimately bring financial ruin to your loved ones. I can assure you -- it is not as scary as you think.