The Partisan Divide on Issues

[pbrower2a]

(08-19-2020, 10:37 AM)CH86 Wrote: ( I had to make a duplicate account because I'm currently locked out of my old one, password credential request access is currently not working for some reason)

I think there is a strong misconception of who currently constitutes the liberal and conservative sides today. This misconception appears to more entrenched on the liberal side judging from what the posters here are saying. Regarding the 2020 election, barring making some super unforeseen or unlikely royal screwups or screwups between now and November, Trump is pretty much certain to be reelected and by a fairly wide margin by the way. The Just completed primary pissed A LOT of us off who are traditionally on the fence or lean democrat. Establishment democrats don't really have even the Bernie Supporters anymore; they participated in the convention purely as a last ditch effort to attempt to broker it.

...and what does Trump have that he can offer Bernie supporters? There are extremists on the Left who prefer that things get so bad that people will acquiesce in the most extreme efforts to overthrow the Old Order and institute revolution. Bolsheviks were prime examples. 

If you assume that Trump will get re-elected then you either 

(1) see an indelible pattern in which Presidents once elected get re-elected
(2) have neglected the news since early 2017
(3) fail to look at the approval and disapproval ratings, or
(4) assume that Trump can win with his old tricks of 2016.

Yes, Bill Clinton, Dubya, and Obama got re-elected, winning with maps similar to those of their initial elections.  (So, really, did Reagan in 1984). But Presidential failures can result in one-tern Presidencies. (I explain the elder Bush as he was practically an extension of the politically-successful Reagan Presidency). Carter did not fully solve stagflation and had a messy situation in Iran. 

Many things are wrong for Trump. COVID-19 has been killing like a bungled war. Trump's foreign policy makes that of Obama look conservative. Trump aligns himself with vile dictators. People associated with Trump have been convicted of crimes. Many more traditional conservatives are aghast at Trump's attempts to rule like a despot. This shows in people identifying as Republicans endorsing Biden. 

Quote:Kamala supporters are clearly unhinged and insane, as viewed by the rest of the American electorate (regardless of party). Non-kamala supporters view you guys as complete lunatics at this point. Pro-Bernie sources are even calling that convention closing segment correctly in my opinion, "The moment president Trump won reelection". Personally I can have heated but friendly political arguments with Trump Supporters and still be friends (I am a Gabbard supporter), in my experience that is impossible with Kamala supporters; if you state any disagreement with their "Goddess", or point out her atrocious record, they immediately disconnect with you or block you. They are the Fanatical Cultists they smeared the Bernie/Tulsi/Yang coalition with, when Kamala supporters are the actual cultists. While Core Xers like Classic-Xer have always been GOP leaning especially since at least the late 1990s; On election day the way things are going, his and their votes will be Joined and augmented by a coalition of Unexpected Allies to their side. These being Under 50 Late wave Xers/Millennials/Gen-Z/homelanders and Younger blacks (especially Black men)/hispanics. Legions of Young people head to the polls and will be casting their votes for Trump; while some may due so with a heavy heart (due to traditionally being democratic voters), they will still cast that vote for Trump without hesitation to defeat the insane Kamala cult. Congratulations Boomer Liberals due to your egotism as displayed in the past 20 months of primaries you destroyed any possibility of election 2020 being a referendum of Donald Trump's Presidency. Instead the election will Turn and be decided on the issue of Freaks vs Non-Freaks.

Trump-like word salad. 

As someone with a handicap, I am offended when Trump mocks the handicapped. The only handicapped people who cannot be fully incorporated into the mainstream are the mentally-retarded, as they need comfort and protection that most handicapped people do not need, and the incurably insane.