The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(08-30-2020, 04:05 PM)Mikebert Wrote:

(08-29-2020, 12:18 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: You better think harder than you normally do  because you're response may determine whether you live or die because it's pretty clear that it's my group who are going to be the decision makers because you've already determined that we are the strongest group in the United States of America today. I see a political party that's now mainly Progressive that seems to be of on the verge of imploding and I see the other party seems to have transitioned enough to take its place and stabilize most of the country.

I think you do not see clearly. But that is not what I want to ask. First, imagine this situation:

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You hold title to $450K ($900K if you are married) of income-generating property. You have good reason to believe that a radical faction has taken control of the opposing political party that if allowed to come to power will pass laws that will invalidate that legal title, stripping you of that property (with no compensation) and the income you derive from it. You are not alone. There are 16 million others in the same situation as you, some have more to lose some have less but the average is $450K per individual (collectively over $7 TRILLION).

The issue may be well be decided in the next election and tensions are understanding very high, political polarization is off the charts. Your side loses. Influential people you respect (who have lots more to lose than you) are calling for armed resistance. Would you join them? (I would). Where my wife and I live $900K is enough for for 6 rental units, that would allow us to collect rent on five apartments and live in the sixth rent-free, freeing up y salary for buying the good things in life.

If you were forced to give up your property you would be reduced to a lower class existence.
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This is the situation faced by slave owners in 1860. The scenario above is designed to show why the South seceded over the slavery issue. The Southern affluent and upper classes feared they faced real losses from the results from the election. Their fears were valid; five years later emancipation stripped them of those assets.

In the excerpt above, and in other things you have written, you imply that violence will arise out of the political polarization of our times. So I ask, what do you fear losing that is worth risking your life and everything you hold dear in such an endeavor?

Are we on the verge of going to war over slaves right now? Did you know that its illegal to protect your property in Minneapolis or confront someone who is stealing your stuff in Minneapolis? You have rights, I have rights and everyone we know have rights. You tell me, are your rights worth risking your life to keep and keep everything that you hold dear in such an endeavor or not? No more games I hope your smarter/wiser than Eric and understand the country that you live in and understand the history pf our country. If not, you may find yourself in a tough spot having no rights or say in matters pertaining to you or your property.

So, how much is a piece of shit property located in a really shitty part of town with people who don't care about property or feel obligated to pay rent going to be worth? In short, you can choose to live out your as an American like me with all your rights intact with a government that respects them or live out your life as a peasant. It's your choice but if make the wrong choice now it will most likely be the last choice that you make as an American. Personally, I believe the USA is worth defending and waging a multi faceted war with today's Left to keep the bulk of the country intact myself. I don't know how a bunch of Democratic city states and a Democratic group of islands in the Pacific are going to survive as group but that's not up to me to figure out. That's going to be left for you or your government to figure out after we make it clear that we're going to split with the Democrat's altogether.