09-02-2020, 01:01 AM
(09-01-2020, 10:46 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:So, uppity is racist term too these days. Are you sure about that teach? So, how long is going to be until moron as in black moron is racist too? How about imbecile as in black imbecile, can we expect that to be racist too?(09-01-2020, 01:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-01-2020, 12:49 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Corporate America got huge aid to keep the economy from a tailspin reminiscent of the Great Depression through bipartisan support, and Corporate America paid us back by funding right-wing pols best described as mirror-image Marxists adept at creating suffering for others for their own gain.
Nancy Pelosi is past eighty, and she is unlikely to change her core beliefs. Likewise Biden and McConnell.
Donald Trump is a crony capitalist, and that is an indelible part of his character. I see little reason to believe that he will have any political relevance after January except as a scapegoat and as a model of how not to be President. And what is morally wrong with living paycheck-to-paycheck? In a corrupt plutocracy like ours, such is a badge of honor. Do you really admire Steve "Caught on a Yacht" Bannon?* Or such scum as pump-and-dump stock swindlers who fleece people of their retirement funds?
I see Barack Obama as a model of how to be President after this Crisis is over. The Mature Reactive, someone not full of himself like an arrogant Idealist and who knows that he can't get away with much, is exactly right for a society that relies upon thrift and small-business development instead of the bloating of vertically-integrated near-monopolies. We are headed to a high in which employment is a near-certainty among anyone with a work ethic, but in which small fortunes might be made by starting small businesses that do well. Small businesses make more people prosper than do corporate behemoths with executives paid lavishly to treat employees badly. Being overworked and underpaid but having no security is a raw deal for a worker, and that makes socialism attractive.
Donald Trump has the classic faults of an Idealist generation: he is egocentric (selfish, ruthless, and arrogant) to the extreme, but he is also unlearned and intolerant, and if he is decisive he is decisively wrong. An Idealist generation can give an FDR, a Churchill, a Lincoln, a Juarez, a Mannerheim, a Gandhi, or an Adenauer; it can also give a Lenin. Trump so rends America that many conservatives are deciding to support Joe Biden. Rule of law, checks and balances, and governmental integrity are all that save us from a despot.
*The Feds love to catch crooks indulging themselves at expensive resorts, mansions, and yachts. Figure that Federal prosecutors love to have such people as schoolteachers, librarians, engineers, and accountants on juries for mail fraud, wire fraud, or bank fraud that involve paper trails. Part of the evidence is documentation of bank accounts and high-value retail transactions.
A Mature Reactive wouldn't have embarked on a world wide apology tour or accepted a Noble Peace that was obviously given to him as a gift or sicked the IRS on his political competition or allowed himself to be drug into a petty dispute between a white cop doing his job and an uppity black who took offense to it and used the race card or would have thought giving a billion in cash to a terrorist regime was a good idea and so forth. I'll give him credit for being born here. I'll give him credit for being the first Black American to become President. I'll give him credit for the death of Bin Laden and even give him credit for the removal of millions of illegal Mexicans. But other than that, he was a two bit Liberal politician with above average communication skills who served two terms because he was black. I don't care about Steve Bannon or the Koch brothers or whoever else you think I worship or admire or feel all goo goo about these days. The Republicans that are supporting Biden are ether babies who can't handle defeat or progressive minded policy wonks or minorities who think their special because their skin is brown.
I would be delighted to see some Turkish leader go on a world-wide apology tour to express a condemnation of the genocide that his country did to Armenians. There are people of Armenian origin all over the world. It would be appreciated.
"Uppity" is a racial slur, Classic X'er. Blacks have the right to demand dignity from those who deny it to them without valid reason. Credit for being born here? That doesn't count for much in my book. Charles Manson was born in America.
Obama returned criminal aliens to their places of origin, including spouse abusers who lost citizenship for a felony conviction. That was even-handed.
In view of how bad the state of the economy was in 2008, the last thing anyone could care about in the President was his origin. Obama acts with integrity and (this is very much a Reactive trait, at least among the best of them) respect for precedent and protocol. He served a second term because his first term was good enough that making a change seemed premature. OK, I would rather be facing the end of the second term of Mitt Romney than the end of the first (and only) term of Donald Judas Iscariot Trump. And, yes, I prefer political leaders who don't hurt people for a photo op that purports to show his piety. I prefer political leaders who have conventional family lives with marital stability to those who chase skirts and don't pay for abortions to kill the baby and silence his 'conquest' I prefer political leaders who don't say that there are good people on both sides when one of those sides is nearly pure evil. I can see good people only one side of arson, for example.
I don't quite get what you mean by "not caring about Steve Bannon".... is it that you don't care about what consequences he will face for cheating people for whom he solicited funds or that you don't care that he fleeced people who might have better (at least for conservative causes) spend the money to defend Republicans running for public office?
As I see it, the Republicans ditching Donald Trump do so so that they will have influence or at the least they will be able to foster conservatism without the nefarious demagoguery and unreason that I associate with him.