The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Bob Butler 54]

(09-04-2020, 02:05 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Well, that's the main problem that we get to see and hear the most about the days. Outside the Progressive bubble, the Americans understand that cops representing all races and crooks/ criminals of all races have violent run ins /dangerous situations that occur and result in the death of both of them and they also understand that some accidents/improper use of force  will occur with the police from time to time as well.

The thing with fourth turnings, though, is that past injustices will no longer be tolerated.  Those that have long thought taxation without representation, slavery, dictators, were all to be tolerated, find the values have suddenly shifted, that what was once traditional are moved to the past.  

Many reds seem to presume violent racist policing will just continue along.  It has always been there, and will continue.  I doubt it.  The greatest problems presented in the culture are removed in the crisis.  Every once in a while folks get tired of racial injustice and demand that it be removed.  It was so in the Civil War, and in the Civil Rights movement.  It is so now.  That improper use of force should be tolerated is a non-starter.

I had been a bit concerned that no new birth of freedom would occur.  If the worst elements of the culture have already been removed by past crises, what is left is less severe.  Crisis war triggers have become more rare for major powers in this time of nukes, insurgent proxy war, non-violent confrontation and major legislative transitions.  Trump?  The best one can say for him is that he has provoked a true 4T, has shown acutely how some of the old values have been tolerated long enough.  If Hillary had won in 2016, things might not have been pushed to an edge where a true 4T would have been triggered.  A true 4T is immediately preceded by a president who demonstrates well why the old values don't work anymore.  Hillary would not have done that.

National laws protecting against racial violent policing will have to wait on new control of the senate and White House.  I have been typing "We'll see" a lot.  That is as it is nigh on impossible to penetrate bubbles, to get people to take seriously the S&H theory they have supposedly been studying these many years.  As is, the conservative love of violence by a few is something quite different from progressive love of periodic new births of freedom.  We seem attracted to the theory by quite different things.

We'll see.