The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(09-08-2020, 02:06 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: We need good cops, and it is better that the cops know some liberal arts so that they might be able to persuade people in family arguments that their bickering that has led to violent anger is the problem more than the objects of bickering -- instead of watching violence unfold and shooting the first person who grabs a weapon.

I believe in law and order, and I am very much on the Blue side. Of course lawlessness makes the formality of civil liberties mere cant. On the other side, unjustifiable police brutality is itself lawlessness not compatible with law and order and civil liberties. You can rail about Black Lives Matters all you want -- but it has a narrow purpose, and it is not a "Get Out of Jail, Free" card for African-American offenders. Give Black Lives Mattes what it wants, and criminal offenders will be caught with just enough force to subdue them, and offenders will be taken to jail safely. OK, pull a gun on a cop and expect to die -- but that's what nobody protests now. You might recall that both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have made clear that people who exploit a peaceful protest for criminal deeds violate the rules of civil society and deserve to be apprehended, prosecuted, and incarcerated. 

You, Classic X'er, demonstrate why you cannot lead. You stand for an ideology that debases people in the name of a vague tradition that becomes increasingly irrelevant and offensive. Your ideology makes needful change impossible, and reversion to old vices in public life a certainty. Progress depends upon people questioning old ideas for their merits and rejecting those when something is better and available. To be sure, there are old truths that can never be countered, like mathematical and physical laws and the conventions of logic. The rest is typically shakier, including national identity. 

I am not convinced of the superiority of "America" as you understand it to my conception. There are plenty of ways in which to be an American, some of those ways being completely exotic to Americans of the time of the Founding Fathers. "America" does not imply a certain ethnic origin or limited range of religious beliefs. "America" has been able to adjust to big changes in America, including the rise of new systems of belief (such as Mormonism). "America" does not imply that 95% of the people exist to enrich, indulge, and obey 2% who get everything as was the case in Imperial Russia. We all know how that went.

You need to get out more.

Why do you keep telling the one with the more active lifestyle and the broader sense of social appeal that he needs to get out more? Yep. I've noticed that your candidates are being forced to the center and address a major issue that they both would have preferred to ignore. I also noticed that Biden is trying to be more like Trump. So, how does it feel to be on the side that's now in the damned if you do-damned if you don't position that the Democrats are finding themselves in today? So, who told you this was going to happen months ago? I can't help it that you're to ignorant (to much of an imbecile or political moron) to see what the rest of saw coming a while ago. Personally speaking, you seem to be more of a Progressive than an American Democrat these days. Yep. We all know how it went for imperial Russia and Communist Russia and how it will go for the 1 term Russian imperialist and his puppet government that kind of functions like a democracy.