09-17-2020, 04:42 PM
(09-16-2020, 09:21 PM)David Horn Wrote:(09-16-2020, 08:47 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-16-2020, 07:51 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:(09-16-2020, 07:26 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-16-2020, 03:42 PM)David Horn Wrote: No, I'm arguing that letting them get away with murder is criminal, in and of itself. More to the point, this sends a huge signal that business, especially big business, is immune to the laws as written.
Mistreating workers has been common for so long that anything to the contrary would be newsworthy. But outright killing them, by seeing what's happening and doing absolutely nothing about it, should get some people serious jail time, not a petty fine. You want the swamp drained? Start there!
I'm glad that you're not in charge, I have no doubt that Americans be fighting/ killing each other over food by now. I want the swamp drained and I understand that the Left and it's Democratic allies are about the only ones standing in the way of progress.
...and what is wrong with ensuring that people who do essential work as in food-processing places can expect to be paid well enough to be able to not be in danger from COVID-19? How can we be sure that there won't be a SARS-3 that causes a similarly-deadly COVID-23 plague? We have gotten away with doing much on the cheap for a couple of decades. That may be over. The people who do this work, and much of it is done in rural areas, are not expendable.
By the way -- your food does not originate in a supermarket.
I know where the bulk of our food in our grocery stores come from these days. Yep. The Democrats have gotten away with playing both sides for over twenty years now. I also agree that their ability to do it without seeing/feeling the consequences is most likely over as well.
Just what the hell does that mean? This has nothing to do with Democrats or anyone other than the Trump cronies who want their profits, come hell or high water. There is no reason that the production lines at these meat processing plants can't be a lot safer than they are, and the workers provided with basic protective gear ... except profits. It's all about squeezing every last penny out of the workforce, and if they die, well too bad.
I hope you treat your workers better than that.
...I expected him to come up with the obvious retort that farmers grow the crops and that farmers and ranchers raise the livestock in places outside the sight of the urban skyline, and that people actually work in dairies, slaughterhouses, and food-processing places. The government role in the Department of Agriculture is often to ensure that people having some tough times are able at the least to get food. The money spend on food goes right back into the economy through food retailers.
It's up to us all to ensure that people are not abused or exploited just because we need something and want it cheap, the cheapness depending upon people being exploited severely. We have gotten away with doing much on the cheap, and if we are to have a good social order we will be unable to do certain things on the cheap.
So food will cost more -- then raise the allotment for food stamps.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.