The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(11-29-2020, 11:27 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-29-2020, 06:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-29-2020, 08:34 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(11-28-2020, 11:49 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(11-26-2020, 01:49 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: It's over. Trump cannot win.

Not that I think you are wrong, but some internet flame warriors are still projecting that with the next inevitable court victory all will be well on Earth 2.  An example from YouTube..

It is not that I am worried that they will win anything significant, but that by keeping the law suits alive they are building an idea that the court cases have some merit

There are two potential outcomes: both bad.  Outcome #1 makes the obstructionism a permanent political feature, with RW Billionaires funding all sorts of legal and political mayhem. Outcome#2 leads directly to violence.  

Biden is already a lame duck by virtue of his age. Worse, the entire Democratic leadership team are way past their use-by dates.  If the Dems continue with this, it will be RBG all over again.  BTW, I'm still pissed at her for being so selfish, not that it's important now.  Back on topic: the Dems aren't ready to fight the next round with all Silent leadership.  The GOP may just win by default.

I don't know who the younger House leaders are who are at least as progressive and competent at mobilizing action as Pelosi is. Invoking age alone does not describe what is happening, or the skill of the leaders. I don't know a young leader who can run for Pelosi's slot and win a broad mandate to lead the Party or be speaker. AOC will not be elected now, and I don't know if Ro Khanna can do it or is willing. Who else is there? Who will step up? A Gen Xer Democrat is more likely to be a spineless moderate.

McConnell is also a Silent and remains at the Republican helm. So that's no better for them, age wise.

Our government remains at a stalemate, but that is not due to the leadership, but to the voters. They voted for this. It's all on them. Voters today, when they vote for a senator, do not know who they are voting for. This year, they voted for McConnell or for Schumer, and even if the Democrats win two Georgia runoffs, McConnell will still win (though not as handily). 

Only if progressive Democrats win a Senate majority can they make DC and PR a state and thus end the Republican Senate dominance. Only then can they reduce or take down the filibuster and reform the court/add liberals. Until they can do this, thanks to the voters' decision, we are stuck in 1981. Maybe forever. In which case, the USA will not be the world's leader; China will be. The USA may decline or split apart, and there will be no hoped-for second turning. Only continued decline.

You voted for Biden and the return to the status quo. So, it's all on you and everyone else who voted for him. You also voted to establish China as the new world leader as well. I hope the Democrats are prepared to deal with continued decline and the reality of a national split occurring on its watch so to speak. I think you guys did a wonderful job setting yourselves up for failure. Just so you know, I understand that we're going to take some lumps too.

YOu voted for Trump and McConnell and the status quo. No, REGRESSION. So, it's all on you and everyone else who voted for him. You also voted to establish China as the new world leader as well. Because your vote for national decline makes that inevitable. I hope the Republicans are prepared to deal with continued decline and the reality of a national split occurring on their watch so to speak. I think you guys did a wonderful job setting yourselves up for failure. Just so you know, I understand that we're going to take some lumps too.