12-01-2020, 01:37 PM
(12-01-2020, 06:42 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Covid was just the trigger that marks the beginning and you just elected Hoover/Chamberlain in my opinion. Thank God, we have the freedom to split with the Democrats and place them on ignore and turn a blind eye to the violence and social unrest that occurs in their little blue countries/ strongholds/city states. We'll get to see how many Democratic believers are left after several years of steady decline, hyper inflation and increasing numbers of people with no values who are pretty much free to do whatever they want with little to no concern about the consequences for their actions. We're already seeing it now. We'll see who is on the greedy side and see who the fools are as well.(12-01-2020, 06:14 AM)Einzige Wrote: Lol, 2008 is the middle of the unraveling now? And that justifies the continued embrace of neoliberalism by the Democratic Party in 2020?
From my perspective, the wars that developed from September 11th that destabilized the Middle East were an attempt at a conservative led crisis. A version of the old values was pushed in using war as a means of profit. They ran into an insurgent proxy war and failed. This was a bit early perhaps, but the real crisis is not an attempt to push the old values. September 11th may have felt like Pearl Harbor for a while. but after years of the American military being burned out the battle eventually got looked at on its own merits. They were not going to deny Bin Ladin a place to train. They were not going to reinstitute colonialism. Failed.
It seems most people on this site don't even view it as a crisis. A major attempt at changing American values failed, the traditional rejection of violence in a crisis happened, no more massive numbers of boots on the ground, and people just wanted to forget about it. Instead, it is hard to argue that we didn't revert to unravelling mode. There were seemingly unending debates between two sets of values and neither triumphed.
I would count the early years of the crisis alignment of generations as a continuation of the unravelling. It is only when the trigger event occurs that you get into the heart of the crisis. That would be the appearance of COVID, and later the Black Lives Matter protests. It is only when the new administration commits itself to handling the primary conflict of the crisis that the regeneracy is fully taking place. That looks to happen on February 20th. After that, the crisis is truly underway.
Now you may interpret the theory differently. I admit to taking considerable liberties, the better to match the theory with what actually happened.