The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(12-18-2020, 11:13 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-17-2020, 07:45 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(12-16-2020, 10:56 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-16-2020, 04:16 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(12-15-2020, 05:13 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: How much do you want to bet that he's reelected if he runs in 2024?

I thought I answered that already. It depends on who is nominated in 2024.

All this talk about the "historic nature" of Harris as vice-president-elect could end up being very ironic, if that choice turns out to be the death knell of the republic.

Are you going to ignore an election result and nominate someone other than Harris who will most likely be President by then? Biden's people won't be able to hide Biden's condition for long being half the country already knows that he's got dementia. You should be happy, Liberals (the blue personality cult) don't like the idea of a republic and prefer a dictatorship. Ain't that what you want?

No, it's what YOU want, obviously. The end of democracy. And my astrological method of horoscope scores shows that Harris will never be president. Biden does not have dementia, and he is as ambitious as anyone. He will stick around and may even run for re-election. But if Harris is nominated in 2024 instead, then your chance will come again to screw up the country.

Your only idea of freedom is freedom to carry AR-15s around so you can massacre people whenever the hell you want. I could care less if that freedom is taken away from you.

As I've told you before, I have no interest in losing any of my American rights including my right to vote. Harris will be President if Biden is unable to finish out his term. That is what you voted and was willing to accept when you voted for the Biden/Harris ticket right? What is so difficult about accepting that distinct possibility? Biden has dementia. So, it's really just a matter of how long the Democratic political system (news, media, politicians, political spokes people and strategists) and his personal handlers/decision makers are able to hide it from the public altogether and able spin it and weasel their way of not knowing or caring about it and so forth.

Losing your right to vote? What really matters is meaningful choice. North Koreans have a right to vote, but obviously no choice. Theoretically you can vote for someone other than the candidates selected by the Korean Workers' Party (which is a Communist Party), but if you try you will be identified for harassment and worse by the secret police. 

I say this because Donald Trump has sought to invalidate an election so that it shows that he won. That might not be as horrible as how it is done in North Korea. Making a choice of the opposition invalid is also a denial of the meaning of a free election. Leaders simply entrench themselves. You may like that now, but what happens if your values change? What if America gets into a big mess and can't get out of it because the rigid leadership  that has entrenched itself will not allow any adjustment?

It is my assumption that my disdain for President Trump is as strong as the disdain that most Trump voters had for Hillary Clinton and now Joe Biden. That political polarization has gotten that bad is itself a problem. We have gone through all but the last month of the Trump Administration, and such misgivings as I have had of him as a person and on his political style while he campaigned for the Presidency in 2016 have proved valid. If there is any mitigation, it is that his lasting effect as President will be to have installed three Justices of the Supreme Court that some right-wing political cult approved of. Those three can practically ensure that the values of that cult be enshrined for a very long time. Basically, he who has the gold makes the rules.

At the worst, should Joe Biden deteriorate so that he should become barely presentable, then the people around him  -- mostly good people, by the way -- will squeeze him into a strictly ceremonial role. That's how it was done with Reagan.  It is probably best that Reagan's handlers concealed intimate details of his mental decline, if only for reasons of national security.