The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(01-14-2021, 02:15 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-13-2021, 10:47 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(01-13-2021, 09:22 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: We are both old enough to know how the world works, so who is lying?

Just remember what happens to the conservative values during the crisis heart.  If you learned anything from hanging around turning sites you should anticipate what is coming.  

Should.

I don't think that you recognize or grasp the values that we represent that are directly attached and related to your own life and whatever rights and freedoms that you have left today. Like I said, if we have to go to war with the Democratic party, we won't be going to war to keep slavery or Jim Crow laws in place. Like I've said, you aren't thinking straight anymore. Your thinking more along the lines of a lowly partisan hack. I don't know what the rest of world was doing while America was busy settling its differences during the American Civil War. I don't know what kind of a fool or lunatic or dirt bag would go along with empowering government to take away the Constitutional rights and protections of millions of American citizens.

Oh, so you are not going to restore Jim Crow, let alone slavery! That ought to be reassuring to African-Americans who never knew that such was a possibility. Maybe if you tell the Jews that there won't be any shooting pits or fake showers into which someone introduce hydrogen cyanide they will want to join you. 

Give us all a break. A herd of deer isn't complacent because it knows that a lurking tiger will kill and eat only of them this time, most likely the stupidest, sickest, or lamest. You accentuate "gun rights" while trivializing the others. To make Americans not like "your" sort of Americans conform to your idea of what constitutes an American implies the degradation of political freedom, cultural identity, civil liberties, and due process that tears at the ideals of our Founding Fathers and of their successors.         

Quote:We seem to be at a WEIRD crossroad as a nation. We have a Constitution that says its illegal for the US government to do what Facebook and Twitter and several other corporations are doing these days.

Facebook and Twitter have the right, as for-profit entities, to do what they deem appropriate for avoiding legal problems of themselves and their customers. Is it lawful for either to deny me some right to post an image of my car and such language as "$6500 or best offer" and my phone number and website?

Heck, this website deleted a large number of posts, including some offering counterfeit currency, forged passports, and just about every false document that you can imagine. Do you have a problem with that?

Incendiary rhetoric and criminal speech are... well, I understate the reality when I say "trouble". Newspapers have always chosen their fights carefully. 

Quote:How is that possible with the Democrats in power? It goes against everything you've claimed to be opposed to and associated with me for years.

Violent insurrection is not a basic human right. Nullification of an election is nobody's right. Disruption of a session of Congress is not a basic human right. Please, Classic X'er -- make it unambiguously clear that you repudiate all statutory offenses committed at the Capitol building on January 6, and that you would condemn anything of the sort if it happened in St. Paul, even if those who did the insurrection believed in your agenda?  

Quote:So, how much value do you place on Biden/Harris Presidency? Does it have to succeed or can it fail miserably?

Way too early to tell. Can you tell me definitively that the Minnesota Twins will reach the baseball playoffs this year? I can reasonably tell you that my "Detroit Cocker Spaniels" will have another awful season, and that just evading 100 losses will be some achievement.

Quote:I don't place any value on it whatsoever. I don't place any value on the Democratic government of yours either.

Well, he is your President, too... just as Trump was mine. That's something like being in most of Michigan and having no baseball team to watch most days than the "Detroit Cocker Spaniels". Yeah, yeah, yeah; they are finally rebuilding, sorting out the talent that they get by trading off veterans who still have some value on contending teams, picking off surplus players from good teams (let's say the Red Sox second baseman who can hit .250 with 12 home runs a year because they have a second baseman who can hit .280 with 20 home  runs a year and can't play both, and giving every high draft pick a chance to prepare for the majors. Maybe in a couple years I might travel to Detroit to see them play a game or two. I have better things to do with my life than to watch a bad baseball team and better places to go than a baseball stadium unless the Yankees or Angels are playing. 

Quote:So, what do you have to do to fix that because I know of seventy some million Americans who could begin withdrawing their money and stop paying their taxes and destroy your government. Is that what you anticipate? You probably should because we live a free country. Welcome to the 4T.

I didn't know that there were Canadian banks in the Twin Cities that take deposits in America and lend only in Canada. Because of withholding, working stiffs have no means of evading taxes on their work. Besides, the winning record for the election was 81-74... and there are no more games to play. 

If you are unhappy with "America" no longer being the "real America" that you supposedly love, then there are nearly 200 other sovereign entities in the world to which you might consider emigrating. Of course, I strongly discourage you from going to Syria, Somalia, or North Korea.