01-28-2021, 05:52 PM
(01-26-2021, 01:27 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-25-2021, 11:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(01-23-2021, 01:07 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: You do not want your sons joining Proud Bois or Boogaloo Boys. Really.
Are you sure Classic Xer is not himself a member of Proud Boys? He talks like he is.
No. I'm a member of a much larger group of American citizens that's largely idle at the moment. Like I've mentioned, the ball is in your court and the fate of the Democratic party has been placed in their own hands and that's the way it should be right now. Welcome to the 4T.
I have the faith (and you are welcome to call it arrogance) to believe that we Democrats have far more flexibility in meeting economic distress. Our idea of what America encompasses includes people who used to vote heavily Democratic in the latter part of the 20th century: poor white people in the Mountain and Deep South. If we win such people back because of some 21st-century equivalent of a New Deal or a Marshall Plan, then your Party stands to lose landslide elections.
I want to see a revival of service as an objective of politics at the expense of identity. Identity politics, either way, are bad politics.
The plutocrats to which you (and this means Classic X'er) show political loyalty don't give a damn about poor white people in Appalachia. Well I do, dammit! Poverty for any large group of people serves the rest of us badly unless we be exploiters. Aside from the ethical disgrace of exploitation, it is not even good for survival. To be sure one can live well as an exploiter, but one can also see the exploited turning against one. Just think of Russia in 1917 or China or northern Vietnam in the late 1940's.
Social market (like contemporary, united Germany) or Socialist state (like the former DDR)? I'd rather have the former.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.