The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Bob Butler 54]

(02-23-2021, 11:56 PM)Einzige Wrote: Yes it will be. Representative democracy exists to support capitalist class structures.

Representative democracy exists because it was the best way the people could put a check on the government given the technology of the time.  Kings had to go.   You have to put something in their place.

The problem with representative democracy is that the representatives are wannabe elites, therefore it is easy to get them to serve the elites rather than the people.  This is a problem in the US.  It is a problem in Russia, China, and most everywhere.  It is perhaps the biggest problem with Marx.  You sort of have to assume the most violent revolutionary folk to ever win a conflict will become saints after the win.  Clue.  They often don’t.  I keep asking for how you will solve this problem, and I keep hearing crickets.

I note that at age boundaries you often change dominant forms of government.  The Agricultural Age featured kings.  The Industrial Age featured representative democracies.  Given computer networks as a defining tool for the Information Age and representatives as a flaw in representative democracies, I suspect the dominant Information Age government is direct vote networked individual democracy.

Now, the security issues have not been solved yet.  They can be.

There are political issues which have not been addressed yet.  If you assume one body of the legislative branch is representative, how big is the quorum for a direct voter veto or referendum.  Can the representatives learn to act within the referendums.  

If you look at the US, the current senate works per state rather than per voter.  This was done as a slave compromise, to give small states control enough to prevent slavery from being abolished.  That issue has been addressed.  Can the senate be replaced.

I suspect it is best done in a constitutional convention rather than through the amendment process.  I suspect it will be done in an awakening or crisis.  The people will have to get disgusted with the division of wealth, disgusted to a point near enough to violence.  I can see it if global warming is made a priority now happening in the next awakening or crisis.  The new prophets will need something to get mad about.

But I don’t see violent people becoming saints.  I don’t see a revolution starting without the people believing they will have a check on the revolutionaries.  I and many other people are of the opinion that Marx saw the problems well, but his solution was bad, really bad.  The problem is finding something better than representative democracy at making sure the government serves the people rather than the elites or the Party.  Do that, and we can talk about how to get there, and recall that violence is the last resort.