The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(05-22-2021, 02:23 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(05-21-2021, 05:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: No, it is Trump supporters who have burned a bridge with Americans who prefer rationality, rule of law, wisdom, and intellectual integrity. Admit it: Donald Trump has huge gaps of character that I would not want in a subordinate. Unless I were in an industry such as entertainment or the arts in which character matters little, I would not hire him. To be a factory worker? Well, maybe that would break his narcissism, but I would rather let someone else do that. Fast food? He wouldn't last a week. Retailing? The question is whether he would insult a customer or boss or have a blow-up. Skilled trade? Do you think that his type willingly gets his hands dirty? Teaching or library work? Aside from having little desirable learning and having himself as the focus of the classroom or library, he'd be a disaster. Accounting? Too creative, and not in the positive sense. Writing, editing, or journalism? Do you see coherent communication? Police officer? He would be the worst sort, a brutal cop with sloppy paper work. 

Most people who do real work have their narcissism broken, or they learn the hard way through vocational failures. In an economy in which most people are subordinate to some boss, Trump is the sort of person who tries to order people about before he has earned the position in which to do so.  Most people chafe in jobs too small for their spirits, as someone said to Studs Terkel in Working.  You might try reading that some day to understand what is demanded of people from domestic servants to pro athletes and elected officials or judges. 

True, Joe Biden was  the most viable candidate of all the Democratic candidates at the time. I mean, he was Obama's ( the greatest or at least the most highly anticipated Democratic president we've seen since John F. Kennedy) right hand man for eight years for God's sake. Now, we've got old Biden acting like he's  Bernie in his stead. I wonder how many racist whites supported Biden/Bernie ( a fellow racist white who had represented the racist whites on the Democratic side for many years) in the last election. Bob says the racist whites switched parties. I think they stayed and continued voting to protect paychecks and benefits and the institutions associated with the Democratic party. Bob forgets that Biden and Bird ( the old clansman) served together and were close friends and political allies.

As far as I can see, the white tribe is still the most dominant of the tribes associated with the DNC today. I have a question. Are you able to adapt and adjust to living in an environment where the black tribe or any minority tribe has the right to do or say whatever they want with you. Personally speaking, I do not like the leadership of the white tribe on the Democratic side and I could care less about what eventually happens to them during the reckoning/resolution that's coming. Acerima is on a collision coarse with America and I don't see Liberal Acerima coming out of it in one piece. So, I suggest that you prepare for major impacts.

As I've told Dave and shown others, I'm very similar to them in their way of thinking and my willing to slide the rule of law and morality to the side for the right cause as well. The only difference is, I'm more principled and I'm on the opposite side as them. Plus,  I'm willing to wait (allow more time for the better people stuck among the tribes to move out of harms way and get out of dodge before its to late) for the white leadership cross the line that it should know better than to cross at this point in their lives.

Your side has an advantage in that you control more land, although we have more people on our side than you do. A century ago, the question became whether money or people was to be the priority. The money folks moved into the Republican Party, and the people folks became Democrats. In the 1920s, the Republicans solidified their hold on the fundamentalist puritans while the Democrats corralled the "wets." Wets and labor became the heart of the Democratic Party, and it started to become more urban.

Meanwhile as the Democrats took power and pushed quasi-socialism into being under FDR, the people vs. money dichotomy solidifed and the blacks (then called Negroes) began to migrate to the Democrats. As civil rights got pushed harder in the 1960s, southern Democrats and some other whites moved into the Republican Party, and blacks solidified their presence in the Democratic Party, while other growing ethic and gender groups magnified their presence and power there in the following years. The Great Society of 1964-66 succeeded the New Deal and supported these groups, and aroused further opposition to paying taxes to support the poor and the blacks. The cultural revolution expanded into feminism, the hippies, the gays, gun control advocates aroused by the assassinations, the peaceniks opposed to LBJ's war, ecology proponents, and so on, and became Democrats; and so the opponents to civil rights (the racists) joined with the new religious right, the neo-con superpatriots, the anti-tax/anti-regulation corporate neo-liberals and the gun nuts to solidify their hold on the Republican Party. The Goldwater campaign, powerfully assisted at the last minute by Ronald Reagan, first attained this new "white backlash" cultural identity for the Republicans in 1964 and won five former-Democratic southern states, and it solidified in the years since. 

Trump only trumpeted it more loudly, and brought back the "America First" ideology from the opponents of US entry into world war two circa 1940, and also the older Republican policy of high tariffs. He also expanded the racist white-identity appeal and brought it out of the closet, especially with his hate campaign against hispanics and muslims, and accelerated anti-tax/anti-regulation neo-liberalism and environmental/climate destruction.

If Biden has a good deal of success, and he seems off to a good start, some of the furor on the right could dissipate and the left would thus win the coming battle in our cold civil war. Our side will have the majority, accelerated by millennials and Gen Z and the feared immigrants. But the constitution has given the right-wing a growing, built-in advantage in the supreme court, the senate, the electoral college and the 2nd Amendment, and being without principle and now also dedicated to false conspiracy theories, the right will carry out attempts to suppress anyone who is not rich and white from voting. Rural portions could secede from blue states and add a little bit more to their electoral vote and some extra congressional seats, although this would probably not be approved unless the Republicans have already won back Congress. Greater Idaho (aka the State of Jefferson) is already talked about. It may be harder for blue cities to secede from red states. So although the left can fight back if they win the senate in 2022 by giving representation to DC and Puerto Rico, the right-wing side does have some advantages, even though history and the people are not on their side.

Total secession and splitting the country may be the only solution if the left cannot attain a clear victory. I would say, we will not have the usual kind of Prophet Generation if it does not. What kind of generation they would be is open to question. But Prophets are supposed to be victory children, and victory has always meant that the progressive side won.