The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(09-01-2021, 05:26 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(08-30-2021, 10:18 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(08-29-2021, 01:55 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

Are you forgetting someone who fits those well?

Trump doesn't fit it very well.

You can't see it?

What else is new? But thanks for stepping in brower, where I did not feel like doing.

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Quote:1. Powerful and continuing nationalism goes to Trump and the American Right.

You are completely right on that. 

Quote:2. Disdain for human rights goes to Biden And the Democrats. Black Lives Matter and illegal immigrants matter but that's about it the days.

Donald Trump tried to establish a secret police to harass political opponents.  Hello, Stasi my old friend!
 

Quote:3. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause goes to Biden, You and the others and the Democrats. Read your own posts, enough said.

I'd rather that we didn't have the Michigan Plot or the Capitol Putsch. Biden has spoken little of them, which is a good idea because their deeds are now going through the process of criminal justice. 
 

Trump used immigrants from south of the border and from Arab lands as enemies to stoke his appeal. No president or candidate in USA history did this use of enemies so strongly or successfully in American history as Trump did.

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Quote:4. Supremacy of the military goes to Biden and the Democrats. They're the ones who have been busy weeding out the military.

Trump has tried to make the military pawns in partisan politics. The Armed Services will have nothing of that.

Trump organized military parades, and stepped up funding to the military when it was not needed and when the USA already had more military spending and hardware than the next 10 nations combined.

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Quote:5. Rampant sexism goes to Biden and the Democrats. How many sexual harassment charges did it take to force Cuomo to resign. You'd think sending thousands of COVID back to nursing homes resulting in thousands of deaths would be enough. How many blue chester's have bit the dust over the years?

President Biden asked Andrew Cuomo to resign once the accusations were made clear. Those hit all at once, as is so with such things. 

I'd say Trump's sexual misconduct and harrassment of women is second to none.

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Quote:6. Controlled mass media goes to Biden and the Democrats. Let's see, Face Book, Twitter, Amazon, Apple, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC & CBS, HBO, Showtime, PBS, NPR and pretty much all the major newspapers.

Mercifully he never achieved this, but it looks as if it were only a matter of time. If the news media are uncomfortable with him, then they must have something on him.  
 

Quote:7. Obsession with national security goes to Biden and the Democrats, Biden and the Dem's have been pretty obsessed about national security, How much has changed since Jan 6th and how much power have the Democrats given themselves since Jan 6th? Oh, Then there's all the obsession and hysteria related to COVID that Biden, you and the others and the Dem's being associated with national security too.

The Capitol Putsch can't be good for Republicans now. 

Again, the military buildup under Trump speaks volumes. Dealing correctly with criminals (e.g. Jan 6th) is not obsession.

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Quote:8. Religion and Government intertwined goes to Biden and the Democrats. It's not an organized form of religion but it's a global religion of sorts that the far Left and some of you seem to subscribe to and belief in. Global warming, climate change, the global Marxist movement that the so called intellectuals and Woke Culture have been pushing lately

science  your myth culture

None of it is religion. Trump did that dreadful stunt of raising a Bible (which he neither reads nor heeds) in front of a church that he does not attend (he is not an Episcopalian) after having protesters driven off forcefully. The attempt failed except to shock and offend.

Trump appealed to religion all the time, and got the support of evangelicals. The fact that he is not religious at all shows it is just politics. Calling dealing with facts "religion" shows your belief in the religious ideology of trickle-down economics.

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Quote:9. Corporate power protected goes to Biden and the Democrats. Someone is allowing corporations to have powers that are illegal or powers the US government. Like I said, when the violence begins, the violence isn't going to stop until the Democrats tuck their tales and skip town or fully capitulate, The Democrats have a history of skipping town when the chips are down.

pure fantasy 

Trump stood fully for Big Business on just about every issue from workplace safety to the environment to reduction of the use of fossil fuel.  Neo-liberal, trickle-down economics to an unprecedented degree.

Quote:10. Labor power suppressed goes to Biden and the Democrats. Look at the result of the COVID restrictions. How many small business owners and their workers have been impacted by them.

Covid restrictions have saved lives. Big Business, Big Religion (including the biggest of them all in America, the Roman Catholic Church), and lots of wise individuals have done much to save life from the Plague of Donald Trump.  

With Trump's full support, Republicans have consistently failed to support bills for labor rights.

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Quote:11. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts. I'd say it does not fit for either side at this point.

Trump has been against academia on COVID-19 very consistently. 

Quote:12. Obsession with crime and punishment goes to Biden and the Democrats. Jan 6th and Covid restrictions and mandates. As far as regular crime and punishment. The Biden Administration and the Democratic party doesn't seem to care about rising crime or stopping criminals these days.

Biden, like Obama, is sneaky in support of law and order. Both let the courts do their job without saying anything. Neither gives many pardons. Biden does not use fear of crime as an excuse for divisive policies. but Trump did to the max  
  

Quote:13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption goes to Biden and the Democrats. We're spending trillions on what? The Democrats want America to spend trillions on who and what?  Do you know that only 12% of Americans view the federal government favorably these days? Like I said, If you are reliant on government services, you're pretty much f-d when America lets go of Washington DC in favor of starting anew.

No, that is Donald Trump to a tee. 

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Quote:Fraudulent Elections goes to Biden and the Democrats. Local courts changing state election laws is illegal.

Biden won by a narrower margin than expected, probably because many people who had voted died. That explains the slow count in some states; elections officials were disqualifying the ballots of people who had cast votes and subsequently died. Dead people have no right to vote. Trump still tried to negate the vote, which would have been vote fraud of the worst kind -- the sort that would have made him a dictator.

Trump even tried to get Georgia election officials to change the vote. His attempted coup on Jan.6th was a blatant attempt to negate democracy, powered by his slogan "stop the steal." With Trump's full financial and moral support, Republicans are substituting partisan hacks for election officials and empowering legislators to reverse election results. His Party opposes voting rights at every turn and has used gerrymandering as no Party has ever done.

And NO, just because you are a blind pig asshole, Classic Xer, who denies covid and refuses to be vaccinated, thus spreading the disease in a state that is hard hit, and don't care that voters would have had to get sick standing in lines to vote unless the legislatures had put in mail-in voting and longer hours etc., does not mean that Courts "changing election laws" in this way is illegal. The Courts Trump himself appointed upheld the election results in every case, which means that you have none. You and your Party and your Ideology are against democracy at every turn.