09-02-2021, 03:26 PM
(09-02-2021, 12:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-01-2021, 10:02 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Tom Cotton is scary. If he can be something other than a regional candidate, then I could see him exploiting economic or international distress to get the needed edge. He is not objectionable so far except for ideology... but he might be the perfect vehicle for American fascism. He reminds me of characters leading the vile Norsefire regime in V for Vendetta , which has a fascistic Britain in which the regime offers faith as a substitute for happiness and rationality. That sounds much like the American Religious Right. If America has not graduated away from the near 50-50 split between authoritarians and liberals, then some rough times could cause many independent voters to think that he is onto something --- much like the case in 2016 on behalf of Trump.PB, which group of authoritarians is flexing its muscles and using its power and authority right now. It's not us, we are waiting for moral/legal justification to begin asserting our power and authority right now. Who is imposing social restrictions right now? Who using its power and authority to address social inequity now? Who is banning who right now? Who is targeting who right now? Who is trying to threaten and intimidate who right now? Me, I'm letting you know what's going to happen to a group of partisan twits when the gloves come off. I figure that I'm morally obligated to inform you and the others in advance.
Bob and Eric are right, we are authoritarians too. The difference, we don't have an interest in ruling and controlling the entire country. We have an interest in keeping a portion of the country free (American). I'd say the chances of Americans killing Democrats in another war over freedom is very likely right now. Me, I don't live in a heavy blue area. I'm not dumb enough to live in an governed by a bunch of left wing lunatics/idiots. I live in a purple area where a lot of people have the means to protect themselves, their property and the community if necessary. I live in an area where competence matters and incompetence is frowned upon and replaced.
Republicans are taking voting rights away right now. They are oppressing women right now. They are imposing climate breakdown upon us right now. They are not getting vaccinated right now, thus imposing covid upon us. I sure hope we can use our authority to address social inequity, but that depends on whether all Democrats are real Democrats and not Republican wolves in sheep's clothing. And I sure hope we can take as many guns away from you guys as we can.
Who wins the battle will probably depend on who has the state apparatus. Even then, Trump was unable to get the military to support his coup. He did manage to delay a response, so that an invasion of our capitol was allowed. If Kamala is nominated, then you will have your chance. Succession by blue states will be all but guaranteed then, if your side nominates someone you like. What will the battle look like then? Will you just tell us goodbye and good luck, or will you try to impose your rule and control over the entire country and keep us under your authority? If the reverse happens, and the Democrats nominate a candidate with a better horoscope score than your Party does, and you guys decide to secede, there may not be a fight, and we might just say goodbye and good luck. It does look pretty good for your side if Biden can't get re-elected and hold it together past 2024. The best Democratic candidates now seem too shy to step up, while your side does have some good possibilities.