The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(01-30-2022, 01:36 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(01-29-2022, 11:37 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-28-2022, 01:29 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: On January 6, 2021, the people assaulting the ultimate check and balance  of a free and fair election that ousted a thoroughly-awful President who had already shown despotic tendencies, meanwhile showing contempt for the rule of law, tried to thwart what was usually a predictable event. Demonstrations would have been perfectly legal. A mass incursion into the Capitol building in an effort to disrupt the political process and negate an election was 100% unlawful.

Maybe you know nobody in your immediate area who contradict you.  Maybe you are as abrasive in person as you are in this Forum. Maybe everyone in your neighborhood knows not to discuss politics with you. Some of those people hold you in contempt for your political views. Maybe every liberal near you avoids you if possible.  It's easy to believe that nearly everybody you know at the least pretends to share your belief. 


If being an American ever becomes shameful as it did at one time for Germans to identify with German nationality, such as after all those images of massacres and concentration camps became unavoidable, then I might regret being an American. It's up to us Americans to decide, should the choice be between fascism and freedom that we choose freedom.

Are you choosing freedom or still going along with fascism/communism these days? America is deciding or already has decided who (which side) stands for what these days.

I am for law and order, without which human rights and civil liberties are pipe dreams. We liberals have found this out the hard way, and we elected as President someone not so nice to offenders. That's Obama. Think about it: Obama is a very convincing and even seductive speaker. Can you imagine him calling for people to storm the capitol had he lost in 2012 fair and square?  


Freedom isn't lawlessness. Trump supported the lawless misconduct of people who stormed the Capitol.

I look forward to the day when conservatives recognize that the only problem with Obama was that he wasn't a conservative. America will be far better then. Surely you have seen my Eisenhower-Obama comparisons. Yes, Obama is going to prove more like one President than the others. He may have wanted to be the New FDR, but he ended up more like Ike. Eisenhower was a good President. I also hope that conservatives will start looking at the Michigan Plot and the Capitol Putsch and recognize both as horrible just for their lawlessness.

I don't see any need for nationalizing everything in sight, and I do not have Lenin, Stalin, Mao, or Castro as a hero. I consider Marxism obsolete because he failed to recognize both the complexity of human nature and the potential for extreme abuse by bureaucrtic elites who need own nothing to wield abusive power.

Your generation, X, is starting (or will start-- says Eric the Green) to enter elderhood (Obama turned 60 last year), and much of it is clearly the "mature reactive" which has learned that crankiness is a losing proposition, settling scores is a low priority, that caution is a virtue, and that legal niceties and protocol are worth their inconvenience. Who is the loner -- you?

I agree. Good question for Mr. Classic X