The Partisan Divide on Issues

[David Horn]

(02-03-2022, 07:58 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(02-03-2022, 02:58 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Where did you get the impression that I expect things to be different this time? Unlike you, I don't expect things to be different this time. I expect to see some kind of conflict to occur that results in human casualties and loss of life. So far, the Democrat's in charge seem to be hell bent on setting the stage for such a conflict to occur within the United States. Why here? I guess the Northern Democrats aka Northern Aristocracy of today aren't any wiser and are as arrogant as the Southern Democrats aka Southern Aristocracy were prior to the last American civil war.

One difference is that you expect overt violence.  There is a difference between January Sixth and Gettysburg.  In the Information Age - as the suffragettes, Gandhi, and MLK demonstrated - it is possible in a democracy to change the culture without violence.  Thus far, this crisis is reflecting the change.  Unlike you, I do not have to ignore history to hold my beliefs.

You imaginary Acirema seems to be Trump Lite.  Don’t save lives by fighting Covid.  Push racism.  Exploit the government for personal gain.  Exploit the environment to destruction.  Let the bridges fall.  In short, no change, stay the same, do not solve the problem.  I realize you aren’t with Trump all the way, but I am more concerned with the rural red mindset than your imaginary Acirema.

Last week, Trump stated that the American health care system was killing whites by denying them medical care.  This week there was a Neo Nazi protest against a hospital generally (Boston’s Brigham and Woman’s) and two doctors in particular.  You see, part of our legacy medical system is moving white patients to critical heart care if they needed it, but to leave minorities in the cheaper and less effective general care.  The two doctors proved the trend, that it was a lethal trend, and are working towards equality in medical care.  This was converted in the minds of Trump and the Neo Nazis from a historical prejudice against minorities to a current prejudice against whites.  Working towards equality in healthcare provoked outrage.

And the Neo Nazis ‘fought’ this trend by protest, by non violence.  Even the Neo Nazis have seen the change.  Oh, the ‘Heil Hitler’ salutes have remained the same.  The racism remains the same. The logic remains twisted.  But they recognized the tactics used reflect the Information Age.  Even the Neo Nazi are still using the protest and legislation non violent methods.

This is apt to remain true after they lock Trump up.

I agree fully, but it's so much wind in the ears of the New Right.  We have a new governor making the same kinds of claims and taking extra-legal actions in response.  So far, he's getting away with it, and I suspect that a large percentage of the Virginia populace thinks that's perfect.  What hasn't happened yet is a counter activism that can be fully pragmatic and effective if not totally ruthless.  Instead, the SJWs continue to produce fodder for the right.  

Not good.