The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(08-19-2022, 08:51 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-17-2022, 03:01 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Wyoming has no such Blue Collars who hate "elites". They support Trump Republicans by a 4-1 margin. To support Trump is to support the elite. To support Trump is to support a tyrant and oppose democracy. Wyoming is beyond the pale of any kind of decency or fairness. Wyoming voters just cannot be reached. What we've got here is failure to communicate. So, they need to "get it", and get defeated, and if they rebel to slap them down hard and their guns confiscated.

Just who comprises the elites in Wyoming if not the old-line GOP?  Look at the Cheneys as prime examples.  They, along with others of their ilk, are rich and powerful, and more important, owners of "the means of production".  In Wyoming, that's fossil fuels and ranching.

Now, look at the blue collar types.  They are righly angry, but they have decided that the elites aren't properly attentive to the GOP shibboleths of God, guns and gays, along with anyone not native to the state.  Thes are the issues more important to them than assuming actual power in the traditional sense.  Will this degrade into low-level chaos?  Perhaps.

It will not benfit the few Democrats, though ... and they know it.

Right. There is really not much difference between the various authoritarian folks, including blue collared ones, who defer to the rich bosses (including the rich bosses themselves like the Cheneys and Barrassos), and those who defer to the priestly authorities and the other groups upheld by social conservatism. They are usually allies, if not the same people. The neoliberal ideology of deferring to the job creaters and opposing welfare and government social programs matches naturally with those who think certain ethnic and religious groups should have privileges and preferences for nearby residence in their nation, etc. and should not be supported by this "government that is the problem" that "asks me to pay taxes from my hard-earned income to support those who don't deserve it and don't work" etc. Just ask Classic Xer, ha ha!

The Cheneys are not apparently much different than their underlings in their overall views, but somehow the Cheneys seem to have an appreciation for the rule of law and basic principles of democracy, or at least Liz does, and gets agreement from his father on this occasion at least. I don't know if there is any class distinction that accounts for this, or if the rich elites somehow can see past Trump, while the blue collared folks who work for them cannot. Probably there's no difference between classes in general on this point.

The difference between former president Trump and his Veep on this issue seems another instance. Why do a few Republicans get it, and most don't? And I think there is a tendency among some to really think that Trump represents them against the elites. They are simply deceived, and there's just not much more to it than that, as far as I can tell. And their supposed anti-elitism really translates into support for policies that uphold the elites and their destruction even of the common people themselves, and that is another indication of their extreme level of ignorance and foolishness. I encounter it often online.