Who Can Beat Trump?

[Bob Butler 54]

(08-30-2018, 12:22 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-29-2018, 11:34 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-29-2018, 10:02 AM)David Horn Wrote: I just don't see that kind of bullheaded nonsense in the Blue world.  Are many Blues misguided?  Of course, but not to the point of taking up arms: an integral part of Red world if you are allowed to see it.  Since Trump, it's openly on display.

I agree that each vile stereotype could be considered unique, and that Trump's recent stereotype of the Blue is worse and more pervasive than many, but that does not not excuse in my view the holders and actors upon other vile stereotypes.  Many reds have something real to say.  The complaints that they are being shut out are real and meaningful.

I'm sure the Red message is much fainter in Very Blue Massachusetts, but the opposite is true where I live.  I hear the Red message all the time, and most of it comes down to either resentment of others for their success or 'otherism' due to color, gender identity or simple philosophical bent.  The South is still largely unreconstructed.

Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-29-2018, 10:02 AM)David Horn Wrote: I agree that we all tend to fight the demons in our minds, rather than our true opponents in our midst.  No one is listening to anyone not inside their own tribe, because they get roasted by both sides for doing it.  As it stands, the Red tribe has much more to lose and much fewer resources to draw-on for solutions.  To add to the fire, the Blue tribe is out of patience with the Red tribe, so generosity is not likely to be in the cards.  

It's a safe assumption that things will get even more ugly before they improve.

A very safe assumption, especially if no one is listening.

Listening is not hearing, but, equally true, wisdom is not the product of opinionizing.  Having an opinion that is inherently bad, for whatever reason, is still a bad opinion no matter how earnestly felt.

Here is a CNN article saying that in certain red areas, an endorsement by Trump is still a big deal, wins you a lot of votes.  This seems to confirm the allegation that certain areas are big into Trump like politics, very much opposed to the coastal CNN blue image of Trump as inept.