Who Can Beat Trump?

[Bob Butler 54]

(09-21-2018, 04:24 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Straw man? It may have been easy to tell the difference between the Democrats and a communist at one time but it isn't as easy anymore.

What do you see as changed?  I see China and to quite an extent Russia as two major places where the once communists still wield considerable power.  They use an autocratic government, rather than the Democrats preference for Enlightenment rights and democracy.  What has changed is allowing some former communists become something that looks a lot like capitalist elites.  What has not changed is the preference for using autocratic government.

Again, unless you are exceedingly stupid, it is easy to tell the difference.  So, yes, you are dependent on a straw man.

(09-21-2018, 04:24 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Look at you, you claim to be half Marxist yet you claim to be opposed to communism but seem to be open to a close relative called socialism. I have to admit its hard to figure out who is who because they're pretty similar in their beliefs and similar as far as the kind of government they represent and/or prefer.

Again, socialism means many things to many people.  I prefer not to use the label as is means nothing these days.  Any government which helps the People could be called socialist.  The US Constitution listed "promote the general Welfare" as a base function in the preamble, so being a so called socialist is hardly un American.

Just a confused word these days.

(09-21-2018, 04:24 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: It seems, the communist and fascists prefer the method involving the use of force to eliminate existing governments and people in order take control over the nations wealth and the socialists prefer using an existing democratic process that's in place to accomplish the task instead. Sound about right?

No.  Helping the People is to me an admirable goal.  Increasing the power of government to increase ones own power is not.  Again, the word 'socialist' means different things to different people.  I prefer not to use the word.  It is you who are obsessed with it, as it helps with your straw man.  Or, are you familiar with the Equivocation fallacy?

(09-21-2018, 04:24 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: As far as the freedoms the Democrats have taken away from me? The answer to your question is none. The Democrats aren't stupid enough to try it these days. Oh wait, the Democrat's did take away my right to have affordable health care like I had before Obamacare. But then again, I don't recognize that as being a right any way so I'll give them a pass on that one.

Thought so.  Straw Man.  

Though health care is included in the UN Declaration of Human Rights.  The US signed, the Senate ratified, so in principle it is the law of the land.  I don't know that citizens are allowed to reject rights as individuals.