10-10-2018, 03:47 PM
(10-10-2018, 03:12 PM)Galen Wrote:(10-10-2018, 09:39 AM)David Horn Wrote: Stupid is stupid, regardless the source. The Antifa, as they fashion themselves, are a disorganized rabble: peaceful in many cases, violent in others. In no case is actual violence rational, unless it's pure self defense. In this case, the "offense" was pretty benign, and the response was pretty benign as well. If you want to complain about violent protest, this isn't it. I have no idea what the guy was trying to grab, and less idea why he felt the need to cover up once he was pulled down. No one punched or kicked anyone. In a court of law, it would rate simple assault, and garner a fine.
Apparently you missed the part where he got hit in the head with a bat. These are only the most recent examples. You might want to spend some time watching the last riot involving antifa.
Do you want to slug a Nazi? Don't!
Here's one view from a Peace Church (modern Mennonites):
Quote:As a pacifist, I’ve always felt a little uncomfortable punching Nazis (yes, even Nazis). This week has reinforced my belief that it’s not only unethical to punch Nazis, but also ineffective. Punching a Nazi–literally or in effigy–may be satisfying, but if anything, it reduces the number of people who are empathetic to progressive causes. It’s a reactionary doubling-down on rhetoric that indicates that Nazis are so far beyond the general population that we–in the moderate-to-radical left–would not welcome them even if they tried to re-integrate themselves. One of the most chilling developments among post-Trump activism is the way liberals cling to the Nazi-punching rhetoric inspired by the protestor who punched Richard Spencer on Inauguration Day. It isolates neo-Nazis even more deeply in their narrow, self-justifying ideology–and it isolates anti-racist activists from their moral high ground, which was, “we’re all seeking to be recognized as human.” If you want your enemy to love you (or at least respect you), you have to illustrate that you are willing to love (or at least respect) your enemy.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.