Gray Champion Predictions

[Bob Butler 54]

(07-13-2020, 11:46 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-12-2020, 08:34 PM)User3451 Wrote:

(07-11-2020, 11:59 AM)TnT Wrote:

(07-11-2020, 06:48 AM)David Horn Wrote: This is certainly true.  Actions will determine the result.  To be honest, Trump is a potential GC.  Neither of us appreciate the change he wants to create, but he's all change, that's for sure. 

If the Trumpists prevail, the 1T "consensus" could indeed be authoritarianism.

Au contraire, I think we'll see authoritarianism from the "left"

Trump is done. The extremists on the other side are taking over

The extremists on the left have never been very effective at doing anything other than gaining attention. Unless your idea of extreme is anything to the left of the pre-Nixon era, which is almost a given.  FWIW, I don't see a lot of that as extreme at all.  After 40 years of retrenchment, with the last 4 years being truly extreme on the right, real change is needed ... even demanded.

When serious journalists start comparing the current meat and poultry industry to the one depicted by Upton Sinclair in The Jungle, you know major fixes need to happen and fast.

Gathering the attention of the politicians is often enough these days.  If you make it clear that the majority of the people will vote those fighting change out, that is enough.  Note the Black Lives Matter movement.  Note that people value lives over the economy, that even before people came to realize you aren’t going to restart the economy before beating the but, the governors out to save lives were more popular than the happy talkers.  Note that major legislation is the accepted way of change in the Information Age, that starting a crisis war is virtually obsolete.

The basic drivers of the conservative era?  In buying the black vote, LBJ didn’t count on the racist vote being the more potent.  The voters willfully ended Americas greatness to put the minorities in their place, and thus ended the progressive period.  There was also an element of future shock.  Too much was changed too fast.  There was a retrenchment that nothing else was going to change.

By bringing the racists into the open, by creating an atmosphere where the KKK and Neo Nazi could protest in the open again, the long simmering drive towards equality reawakened again.  By the existence of a problem in COVID 19 that has to be solved in the short term, the folly of not solving problems and the science that says the problems exist is made clear.

I’m seeing the future shock has worn off.  We are ready to change again.  I see the population as no longer willing to tolerate the racist violence habitual among some police.  The racist vote has mellowed somewhat, and no longer ought weighs the black vote.  Thus, the major drivers of the conservative era have run their course.

This web forum attracts among other things violent conservative viewpoints.  There are people who see the cycles as a chance to support violence and autocratic values.  This does not mesh with my basic view of the theory.  Every four score and seven years, a new birth of freedom.  I can see how the Republicans can push the idea that a small government with small taxes can slow down change, but there are some problems which eventually have to be solved.  It’s that time again.  The unravelling created and defined the break between the old and new values.  I don’t see the old values as prevailing, believing that putting off solving the real problems will end the problems.  It is time again for a real change.