02-19-2019, 04:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2019, 04:35 PM by Eric the Green.)
(02-19-2019, 11:18 AM)David Horn Wrote:(02-18-2019, 07:42 PM)Marypoza Wrote:(02-18-2019, 03:09 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-07-2019, 10:03 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: Michael Bloomberg (if the Silents still want a POTUS, he might be their last chance)
Uh, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are better bets.
- Bernie would of made it in 2016 if he hadn't been cheated. Will they screw him over in 2020 as well? Maybe Uncle Joe. The DNC will probably feel they owe it 2 him
I don't know. Bernie had, and still has, an inspiring message. What he lacks is the intrinsic connectiveness that links together coalitions. He may well have defeated DJT in 2016, since anyone was likely to be better than Hillary. Where I'm less certain is the results that would have been achieved by his win.
I see him more in the vein of a Benjamin Franklin -- bellwether to the end.
Probably.
I would say, he has an inspiring message. He can work with others, but I don't know about coalitions. The extremists were mad at him for endorsing Hillary Clinton.
I think Hillary was no worse a choice in 2016 than most of the candidates so-far announced for 2020 are. Any of them except Sanders would have lost in 2016, and will likely lose if nominated in 2020. Hillary came close to winning, don't forget. She was cheated out of it, basically, as well as being a weak candidate. Whether Bernie can beat Trump in 2020 either is a crapshoot, though. Anti-socialist slogans still have a lot of resonance with non-liberals. Campaign and candidate talent is what counts the most in the election. I posted what I thought his chances are in the states.
Bernie cannot likely achieve much of his program, at least not right away. But that's true with most presidents. American voters seem not to be very well-informed civically, and many forget there are three branches of government, and that electing a president does not necessarily get you a congress of the same mind, especially if you don't vote in mid-terms, and supreme court appointments don't come along that often.