07-25-2018, 02:08 PM
(07-19-2018, 02:40 PM)David Horn Wrote:(07-19-2018, 01:20 PM)JDG 66 Wrote:(12-12-2016, 01:21 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: ...Bush went into Iraq with the notion that we could leave when the new government asked us to leave. He and his minions gave the new Iraqi government that we installed the notion that they were sovereign. Bush worked out the timetable for leaving; Obama just followed it...
I dread Trump taking over the war on IS...
1) The Iraqis were willing to let us stay (and would work around the SOFA issue), but Obama didn't want to, because "IRAQ! Darth Cheney! Bushitler, Bushitler, Bushitler!" You remember, don't you Eric?
Would you be OK with serving in a war zone without an iron-clad SoFA? I sure as hell wouldn't.
JDG 66 Wrote:2) The war vs. IS progressed dramatically when Trump took of the gloves. I guess your astrology must've been a little off on that one...
Let's be honest, neither President had a lot to do with pushing IS out of the way. The Iraqis finally stepped up and got the job done.
1) We had a SOFA agreement with Maliki, but Obama didn't care:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...2cdc8d921f
..because "Our of Iraq! Darth Cheney! Bushitler!", and when Obama sent us back in 2014, he did so under the EXACT SAME TERMS that he rejected in 2011.
2) "Push away"? We're exterminating the SOBs.
3) Yes, the Iraqis are doing a better job, but if you're arguing that US military assistance hasn't been a GIGANTIC help in destroying IS, then you're being silly. The guys one the ground have no doubt that things have improved since Trump untied our hands.