11-21-2016, 02:59 PM
(11-21-2016, 12:49 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(11-21-2016, 12:15 PM)disasterzone Wrote:(11-21-2016, 11:33 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(11-13-2016, 12:07 PM)sheridanforbes Wrote: I have been thinking about the super-saeculum idea since Trump won. If I had really studied this, I should have been able to predict the Trump win. But alas, I was as surprised as others.
I believe we are in the same "unraveling" super-saeculum as the Glorious Revolution. The true "crisis" hasn't happened yet, just the catalyst. The result of the Glorious Revolution put Catholicism to bed once and for all in England, something that the English had been dealing with since Henry VIII.
So what is America's core issue that we've been dealing with for years?
Look to the last Awakening. It was and has been "human rights," even starting with the Bill of Rights. Race as been front and center, but gender, sexual preference, and workers' rights also are included.
Trump isn't William or Mary. He is James II.
James II brought Catholicism back, just like Trump is returning issues of race, gender, sex, and rights back to the 1950s. Trump is the catalyst just like James II was.
Trump's victory looks like it awoke the Millennials, just like James II awoke the core Protestants to overthrow James II with William and Mary.
The sleeping giant has awoken.
Let's hope it stays awake, and that Trump's war on the environment is resisted as strongly as his war on racial and gender equality and human rights.
The people really blew it this election, big time. Especially the people in the rust best and upper midwest. They really, really blew it. The giant will now be up against a neanderthal Supreme Court, as well as Republicans installed at every level of government since 2010.
When do you think this 4T will end? It's like my entire life has gone to waste.
You're a pretty young guy. A lifetime can be longer if we take care of ourselves. So don't worry, too much
I think this 4T will end in 2028-29 (I'm now in agreement with Mr. Neil Howe on that). Much farther to go. We certainly guaranteed that by "electing" the orange menace. Four more years of living in a regressive society, and probably more, before the 21st century has another chance to even begin. I know, it's depressing.
Mr prediction, though such is no guarantee, is that the year 2022 is a decisive shift toward progress and reform (though also perhaps even more civil strife). In CA, we at least have the joy of living in a progressive state, if not a progressive country. At least, if you like diversity and change.
More and more in the past week I am thinking of the Sullan dictatorship of ancient Rome. He was a "conservative" at heart who felt he had to destroy norms and radically restructure the system in order to save the republic. After he died, his successors unwound many of his "reforms" and eventually the successors of those Marian novus homos had their day. Unfortunately, we know where the cycle of escalations ended.
The Obama years were the opening act. The Trump years begins the second act. We're a ways off from the conclusion of this long course we have been on.