11-21-2016, 04:49 PM
(11-21-2016, 03:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:I appreciate your thoughts but I didn't and still don't believe a word Hillary Clinton said. Podesta's emails give a candid view of a campaign that, as Obama once said, will say anything and do nothing. A pack of two faced liars if I've ever seen one, that believe environmentalists, for one, are whackos.(11-21-2016, 02:23 PM)2Legit2Quit Wrote:(11-21-2016, 11:27 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(11-21-2016, 10:35 AM)2Legit2Quit Wrote:(11-14-2016, 11:41 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: Trump isn't doing Reaganomics. Alt-Right /= Reagan. Not even close.
Trump isn't even close to Reagan. Trump isn't even a Republican.
Clinton is very close to Reagan, but Trump is more like a Molotov cocktail.
It's amazing that people (including the above two posters) could get that so completely wrong. And we'll be paying for this huge mistake for centuries. You got fooled, Mr. Legit. Very badly.
The alt-right and the Reagan right have Reaganomics in common. Trumponomics and Reaganomics have trickle-down, free market, libertarian economics in common. And especially where it hurts the most-- the environment we depend on for life, and the species we have no right to kill off, but are doing it. Hillary Clinton is poles apart from Reagan, but Trump is very much on the same team. Removing regulations will hurt the common man economically, very badly. Allow business to do what it wants, and we get hurt, very badly. Trump promises to remove two regulations for every one created. He is closing down the EPA, and other organizations that protect our health from bad products and working conditions. He is lowering taxes on the rich enormously, so they get even more wealth and power. This is the purest Reagan. Hillary would have done the opposite. And Hillary would have stopped the TPP too. And Trump isn't going to succeed in throwing out NAFTA.
If you can't see the target, you can't hit it. If you don't see that Trump is unleashing a war on the environment, and on the economic well-being of all of us, you can't see the target at all. Trump threw a molotov cocktail at the people, not the Establishment. He IS the Establishment; Hillary Clinton is NOT.
The enemy is entirely within. Internal Cold War. Thanks to people who mistook Clinton for Reagan, and voted in Trump, it's going to get much worse now. Let's hope it stays "cold," at least until Sessions starts shooting us down for speaking out. People who can't see what Assad did to his people, and blame it on the US, probably won't be able to see what Trump does to us. Living under a dictator is no fun. As Trump would say, "believe me!"
And a reminder, that Trump has no mandate. His margin in the swing states was small, and his losing margin in the country is still growing.
I'm no trump fan, as you've implied.
Clinton is pro tpp.
Hillary is no friend to the environment. Look at standing rock.
I have no horse in the race, I'm not interested in emotional appeals or BS.
I understand, I know you're not a Trump fan. But it's the way elections work. This year, if you didn't vote for Hillary Clinton, you were approving of or accepting Donald Trump. That's the way it worked this year.
No, Clinton repudiated and promised to disapprove the TPP. It's funny how people don't keep up with these things. It really costs us, when we end up with another dufus GOP president because we fail to do so.
Hillary was a friend of the environment. Unlike Trump, who called it a hoax, she committed to fighting climate change and accepts the science. Again, it's not a question of emotional appeals, but of facts. I don't know what the resistance to the dakota access pipeline has to do with Hillary; she committed to opposing the XL.
The people cannot make progress if they can't see straight about the candidates running for president. Unfortunately, Americans vote on personality and emotional connection. They don't vote for intellectual policy wonks. Democrats will need to remember that fact.
They have a long list of examples to remind them: Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Michael Dukakis, Adlai Stevenson come to mind.
I think a trump vs Hillary comparison is beside the point. With both candidates, civil war would be likely. Division is high and successful politicians will address the issues of class and power as we complete the 4T.
The Dems are in deep trouble. If they do not transfom, trump will coast to reelection. Hard to believe, I know, but he's got his finger on the pulse. The Dems are out of touch.
It's gonna be a bumpy ride.