Cycles of the 4T

[Eric the Green]

(01-08-2017, 01:54 AM)Arkarch Wrote:

(01-03-2017, 07:13 AM)Mikebert Wrote:

(11-12-2016, 04:15 PM)Arkarch Wrote: A few years back on the old forums, I proposed a thought about larger cycles than the four generation saeculum to help describe the nature of 4T conflicts.  Perhaps its a theory done before; I am just a casual student of generational theory.  The consideration is that there are pendulums alternating between hot and cold war, internal and external conflicts.  I am not talking about the Soviet-US Cold war which may be part of another cycle.

Current Crisis here in US - Internal Cold War
World War 2 - External Hot War
American Civil War - Internal Hot War
Revolutionary War - External Cold War (if viewed as a proxy battle between England and France)
Glorious Revolution - Internal Cold War (yes there were some battles)
Armada Crisis - External Hot War (England and Spain)
War of the Roses - Internal Hot War (between the houses)

Thats about all I have got into it.

Doesn't this break down for the American Revolution which clearly was a hot internal war.

I think that is the conventional thinking; and certainly the battles took place in the American sphere.  But from the English perspective, it was external and ultimately their army was captured and they were forced away when the French came to aid.  Without the French, would the British have retrenched and come back to hit even harder?  So I'll maintain my 100,000 ft view that it was a proxy battle between England and France on my meager knowledge of US History.

That's true, and I would add that from the American point of view, most of what became the American system of law and government was well on its way to being established, and the Revolution was mostly just a defense against an attack by the English king who wanted to restore old-style autocracy upon the colonies. It was an external hot war, an invasion by Britain of America; an invasion of British soldiers on American lands, which included a lot of German invaders as well (the Hessians). The French became our ally, in what was really one of the 9 world wars.