11-14-2016, 11:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2016, 11:29 PM by Eric the Green.)
(11-14-2016, 09:23 PM)gabrielle Wrote:(11-14-2016, 04:05 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: What Galen forgets is the scenario some of us laid out. Trump and Putin buddy buddy. Putin feels he has the green light to invade Ukraine. Trump is not so happy but keeps quiet and allows it. So Putin feels he has the green light to invade Estonia; his buddy-buddy won't mind. Trump has a temper tamtrum and feels betrayed and suddenly patriotic. Trump supports NATO and attacks Russia. His small hands are on the nuclear codes. WWIII.
This is exactly my fear. And seceding from the Union will not save you, Eric.
Why personalize the issue? It's not about me. It's about you too, and all of life on this planet for posterity.
Quote:In fact, the chances of WWIII will increase if the blue states leave and the US becomes increasingly right wing and paranoid.
If CA is left alone, and other blue states are left alone to pursue fully-blue and green policies, maybe secession won't be needed. We'll see. It will take a few years to see where this goes. We'll see what Trump demands from us if he starts a war we don't want too. We don't need the red states. Why should we send them any money?
The USA would be less powerful without California and other blue states. That's a good consideration too. A less powerful USA is less of a threat to the world.
The problem is, blue states may not have any power to influence any decisions in this country. The Supreme Court may be gone, and other courts increasingly packed. The Senate will become more Republican in 2018. It took 6 years before any sort of brake was put on Bush, and it wasn't even enough. How long will it take the people to have buyers' remorse on The Donald? When if ever will America renounce Reaganism? It's taken 36 years already, and the people haven't done what they should have done immediately after electing him. It's total absurdity. We are the laughing stock of the world, and the laughs and the tears just got bigger.
I have a feeling I'll be counting the years that this fluke election of 1980 has still not been reversed until the day I die. What a crock of shit. Well, 36 years and add another 4.