Democrats organize to fight back

[David Horn]

(06-08-2017, 03:17 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(06-08-2017, 10:36 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: By 2020 hopefully Trump will have either been impeached or quit, and there will be a real leader on the GOP ticket. 

Maybe, but for that to happen, I think Democrats have to start winning elections, and win a lot of them, before then. Real pressure has to come from the people, and votes are what matters. Will all the marches and the complaints translate into votes? That's not altogether clear. Votes for Republicans now, are votes for Trump.

I don't think there are any "real leaders" on the GOP side anyway now. They all need to go. Even just looking at it objectively, which I can do through the horoscope score, which shows their potential to connect with the American people and win elections, which an observer can pretty much notice even without the horoscope scores, the GOP has no-one right now. So, they may get someone on the ticket other than Trump or Pence, but (s)he is unlikely to win. And (s)he is also unlikely to be a real leader. Such folks do not exist within that Party these days. Even Kasich, as I said, may have some integrity and common sense, but he has no potential as a national leader because he can't connect with people.

While you may be right, the Democrats may be in even worse shape.  They have been effectively marginalized by their own supporters.  Here's a good synopsis by both insiders and outsiders.