11-18-2016, 03:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-18-2016, 03:32 PM by Eric the Green.)
You know, David was a frequent poster here from the forum's start and for many years.
According to the patterns of history, we were supposed to have already traversed that "interregnum" when fascism was defeated. In fact, I think Europe DID experience something of a renaissance in the last 2 decades, as was supposed to happen after the periodic "interregnum" when "a great variety of morbid symptoms appear." I see this via the TV travel programs, showing streets open to tourists, with art and crafts flourishing and liberation having opened up their societies.
But America has missed the bus. The Renaissance here was demonized, and now the Crisis is magnified. The saeculum is a shorter cycle than the cycle of civilization, so we can pray that the interregum will be short, and that we'll come out the other side after the 2020s. But the outcome of 4Ts is never guaranteed.
Obama became president only months into the Crisis. As I pointed out to David, it had not had enough time to fester and convince people that the old order was to blame for a terrible crisis. So Obama could come in and enact band-aid measures, and the Tea Party could then react to them, still believing in the old order and convincing the rural/libertarian half of the country to agree with them-- thus cutting short any possibility of a "regeneracy" like the New Deal.
So, whatever movement is going to happen to transform our country, it has to get going now first as a resistance to Trump and the GOP. I can't agree with those who say that such talk is too partisan or demonizing. We either get moving, or we surrender our country to those who want a banana republic. Middle America already IS a banana republic; that's what they've chosen to become. The question remains, do the rest of us defeat them, separate from them, or surrender to them. Those are the 3 choices. In a 4T, you have to take sides. That's what some people posting here don't seem to grasp yet.
According to the patterns of history, we were supposed to have already traversed that "interregnum" when fascism was defeated. In fact, I think Europe DID experience something of a renaissance in the last 2 decades, as was supposed to happen after the periodic "interregnum" when "a great variety of morbid symptoms appear." I see this via the TV travel programs, showing streets open to tourists, with art and crafts flourishing and liberation having opened up their societies.
But America has missed the bus. The Renaissance here was demonized, and now the Crisis is magnified. The saeculum is a shorter cycle than the cycle of civilization, so we can pray that the interregum will be short, and that we'll come out the other side after the 2020s. But the outcome of 4Ts is never guaranteed.
Obama became president only months into the Crisis. As I pointed out to David, it had not had enough time to fester and convince people that the old order was to blame for a terrible crisis. So Obama could come in and enact band-aid measures, and the Tea Party could then react to them, still believing in the old order and convincing the rural/libertarian half of the country to agree with them-- thus cutting short any possibility of a "regeneracy" like the New Deal.
So, whatever movement is going to happen to transform our country, it has to get going now first as a resistance to Trump and the GOP. I can't agree with those who say that such talk is too partisan or demonizing. We either get moving, or we surrender our country to those who want a banana republic. Middle America already IS a banana republic; that's what they've chosen to become. The question remains, do the rest of us defeat them, separate from them, or surrender to them. Those are the 3 choices. In a 4T, you have to take sides. That's what some people posting here don't seem to grasp yet.