11-19-2019, 07:38 AM
(11-18-2019, 07:53 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(11-16-2019, 06:44 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: PBR are you naturally clueless or do you have to work at it? Impeachment, if it fails, and it will fail, disgraces the Democrats not the President. Or did you learn nothing from the Clintons at all? If anything as the Impeachment drags out and more and more of it is feels and hearsay the more and more it looks like the President will win by a landslide this time round.
But feel free to continue with your delusions.
I think the house Democrats have to impeach him at this point. I'd do it if I were them. I mean, is there a chance that any of the prominent players would lose their Congressional seats over impeaching Trump for whatever reason that suits them at this point? Personally, I think they've done pretty good for themselves with the portion of the Democratic party that seems to matter to them the most these days. If there is little to no concern of losing control over their portion of the Democratic party and their portion of the country then why not go through with it and continue functioning as they've been doing and have been allowed to be able to do and get away with for years.
I see that you have concluded that the House likely has enough material for a bill of impeachment. Trump was getting little legislation done even when he had two Houses that would have done anything for him. The Democratic majority in the House and the Republican majority in the Senate are not likely to agree on anything more substantive than renaming federal buildings or commemorating "National Hula-Hoop Week".
Trump's behavior is so egregious that it must be impeached. It was only a matter of time, and the President trying to blackmail a foreign leader made impeachment mandatory even if futile. After a series of affronts to sensibilities of liberals, we now have something that offends the military.
The composition of the Senate will matter in 2021, too, and Republicans might like to hold that Democrats are using impeachment as a political tool. The fault with such a sentiment is that President Trump gave the Democrats no alternative to impeachment -- and through his own callow incompetence, President Trump has put Senate Republicans in a bind for at least 2020 and perhaps 2022. Does one excuse the President and show oneself as an unprincipled toady, or does one take the risk of the anger that the President can dish out like despots of the past?
Welcome to the winter of our discontent. Such is a 4T.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.