11-27-2019, 07:06 AM
(11-27-2019, 02:43 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(11-26-2019, 11:48 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: You and your conservative buddies keep requiring us liberals to legally treat a corporation as a person with personal rights. A corporation is made up of humans who have rights. But those rights belong to them individually. A corporation is not a person and should not have rights conferred upon individuals. A corporation has a charter which requires certain things, and is registered with a state which requires certain things.
If we have a national guard, then that national guard is empowered to protect the nation. It needs no assistance from citizens, and citizens do not need to possess weapons that are made for armies. If you want to help protect the nation with arms, join the National Guard if you can. All semi-automatic weapons should not be allowed in the hands of citizens. This does not violate the constitution, which does not prohibit laws against particular kinds of military weapons being owned and used by civilians. If you want to assemble a militia for your civil war, you red folks would be well-advised to form your own state with its own rules. Otherwise you are sure to lose, and will probably lose anyway as your predecessors did 160 years ago.
Wow, I think of the civil war as being 100 years ago. It is now 160 years ago. Time flies when you're not having fun.
I dunno, would you mind if the FBI or any other agency had the freedom to seize your business at anytime for any reason without establishing just cause and obtaining legal permission? I'm sure the business itself wouldn't mind or be upset but would you? Now, I can't speak for your business but my business wouldn't be better off without me in the picture. I'd assume that your business would be better off without you in the picture but I couldn't say it would for certain without speaking with your business. I dunno, the business may not care that you don't about it and place yourself above it in importance and so forth. I'm well aware of the formal/ legal process involved with establishing corporations. I've yet to file one that didn't have me or the business that I own identified as the legal owner. How bout you, you claim to own one, did your business file itself and identify itself as the owner. I don't know who you're talking about but my predecessors won or tied every American war they participated in dating back to the Revolutionary War. Hint, we don't have to break away and form a state like the liberals do. Dude, all that we have to do is keep what we already have firmly established as nation and be willing to support those who currently living in liberal states who want their independence and prefer to remain American.
Governments can padlock nuisance businesses whose operations are themselves illicit, as with those involved with illegal gambling or prostitution, or the manufacture or sale of illegal drugs -- or for that matter, non-payment of taxes. But such requires due process of the law.
Government seizing businesses for no other purpose other than to own and operate them for profit as capitalists did? That is confiscation, and the essence of Marxist-Leninist practice that has itself been a catastrophic failure whenever tried. The Fifth Amendment has a clause precluding government seizure of property unless the government pays appropriately for such a seizure... market value, which would make a Soviet-style economy prohibitively costly.
Don't sweat it.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.