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[SomeGuy]

(02-01-2017, 04:07 PM)Mikebert Wrote:

Some Guy Wrote:There is a world of difference between "The definition of a 4T is..." and "MY definition of a 4T is..."

This is the definition S&H give on page 71 of Generations.

"A SOCIAL MOMENT is an era, typically lasting about a decade, when people perceive that historic events are radically altering their social environment. "

and

"There are two types of social moments: SECULAR CRISES, when society focuses on reordering the outer world of institutions and public behavior; and SPIRITUAL AWAKENINGS, when society focuses on changing the inner world of values and private behavior."
 
The reordering of institutions is the core part of the definition.  Nothing about “mood”.  They do use mood to EXPLAIN how secular crises arise, but a secular crisis is NOT defined by mood.  The definition is what they gave on page 71, which is the definition I am using.  They were pretty explicit, the definitions were offset from the bulk text and italicized.  Kind of hard to miss.

As pointed out previously, I have not read Generations.  I have read T4T.  And in T4T it was very much a question of a change in mood.  I will go home this evening and check an exact page number.

Interesting that they define it in Generations in terms of about a decade, that would seem to imply that a "social moment" is rather shorter than a full turning.