05-07-2020, 02:18 PM
(05-07-2020, 12:35 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(05-07-2020, 10:18 AM)David Horn Wrote: The best estimates -- those offered by real experts -- puts the Fall reemergence in the worse-than-original category. Are you willing to die for the economy? If not, then assume it will be slammed shut yet again, with many additional avoidable deaths too boot. If staying open is your best option, then the total number of dead may reach into the millions in the US alone -- and we will be alone in this.
And let's talk about cities and not-cities. I doubt the residents of the cities will be willing cannon fodder in your economic war. Since most of the economic activity in the country is driven from the cities, and the residents will not offer to die for you, then your guns are of little use. Feel free to rally away, and wave those guns. It may be your last act on earth, because the virus doesn't care.
Can you live without the American economy? Can you live without Social Security, Medicare, pension, your wife's job, food, electricity and everything else that's economically related? Shall we find out? Oh, that's right, you're not a blue city slicker anymore. You're an exurban these days So, you have an unfair advantage over those who will be trapped in blue cities with incompetent leaders who don't give a shit about anyone other than themselves these days.
What people get as aid will go back into the American economy as, among other things, insurance payments, property rents, taxes, food, fuel, entertainment media (OK, in my case complete sets of Bartok and Haydn string quartets will be more enlightenment than entertainment), vehicle repairs, maintenance, vet bills, and in my case the rescue of a canine companion and some dog food. Therapist's orders!
Quote:I can live with COVID19 and we've been doing it for a while now. The blue cities can remain in economic shut down for as long as their leaders want and their base feels it needs to at this point. The rest of America isn't going to care and will adjust life without them and their support like it's been doing for years and begin to even further separate itself from blue leadership and the blue cities and blues like yourself and others here. I mean, blue values seem to center on the blues themselves these days.
Over 75,000 Americans have died of it, and at a grim toll of 2000 deaths a day (there is no evidence of any slowing) we will be past the American military death toll of World War I in about twenty days. That is the third-deadliest war in sheer numbers of American combat deaths.
You are in one of those Blue States, but some Red States, especially South Dakota, are already being ravaged.
People care about the losses of loved ones, and the death of loved ones due to a President and his lackeys failing to respond appropriately to a dangerous infectious disease will not go well with the survivors of those loved ones. OK, white people in Rapid City or Sioux Falls may not care so much about people dying on the Reservation, but they will give a big d@mn about parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles dying of COVID-19. Until recently, people were commonly living into their 70's and 80's, and the Grim Reaper has been doing some harvesting long before the typical grain harvest. The Grim Reaper is harvesting people who thought that they had some good years left. People in advanced industrial countries just did not die of respiratory infections unless dying of something else such as cancer or congestive heart failure.
I'm 64. I am scared of COVID-19 as I was scared of four Rottweiler-sized dogs charging a door with a flimsy latch while giving me the message that burglars are meat. I was only taking the Census! (I do not know what dog I will get; I want one that can get along with cats, as there is a declawed cat in my house). But I was able to walk away from the equivalent of a tiger, and once I was driving off I felt safe. I did report the incident as a warning to my supervisor. Except for being about forty pounds overweight, I am doing much right for living into my eighties as did three of my four grandparents.
But here we go again. I don't care what you think of me. You can do nothing to me except to vote for a doddering fool who can kill me through his negligence and incompetence. I will be doing what I can to protect the lives of your loved ones by supporting Joe Biden for President and Democrats down the line except for the county sheriff who seems to be doing a good job here.
Stay safe, and don't get COVID-19. It can mess up the rest of your life even if you survive the initial attack. I remember the AIDS scare; COVID-19 scares me far more. Then again, AIDS was easier to avoid. I'm not going into the details.
You saw the article from WebMD. I trust WebMD far more than I trust your cranky ideas about a dangerous disease, including your reckless assessment of having gotten it and being safe from it.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.