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[Kinser79]

Normally I wouldn't bother responding to PBR, doing so is  usually pointless.  However there are a few issues that need to be addressed.

(05-15-2020, 02:52 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

myself Wrote:Perhaps it is time for the perspective of someone who is a racial minority.  I suggest myself.

I think in this instance that Classic and the Blue Boomer Libtards on this board want essentially the same thing.  The problem is that the Libtards being both Boomers and thus stuck in a time warp that is at least 20 years out of date and being tarded...hence why I call them Libtards...fail to see their own racial bigotry.

I may be twenty or more years behind the times on technology and pop culture. Technology that I see goes mostly into entertainment, and entertainment is for people who have nothing better to do. Pop culture? I largely outgrew it when I was in my teens. 

Not at all what I meant.  You are as usual so far off the mark here you might as well be on the other side of the planet.  In general Boomers are politically speaking in a time warp.  I too could care less about what passes for pop culture.  As for technology I adopt what seems useful and ignore the rest.

As for entertainment, that seems to be a human need to a degree.  It matters not if it comes in the form of a video game, a book or going to a play.  When not doing vital life things people need distractions from their own internal monologue.  This of course assumes one has one of those, and honestly I'm not sure you do PBR.  Or if you do, you give it far too much attention, which can be, and often is a worse outcome.

Quote:Human nature seems to change far more slowly, which explains why Plato and Freud could both offer a tripartite division of human nature, why (with reservations) the ancient moral wisdom is mostly valid, and the normal rules of getting along with people usually remain valid.

I am not entirely convinced that there is such a thing as human nature.  That remains to be proven to me.

I would argue that ancient wisdom (such as it exists) is wise because it has stood the test of time for most people, in most places, and for most circumstances.  Things become traditional not because someone long ago decided to make it a tradition, but rather because it works, or at least used to work and is retained even though the situation it worked for may now be irrelevant.

Quote:There are people to avoid, and I well know that for some people I am one of them.

I wouldn't say you are "to be avoided" by me, simply put in general you simply aren't worth my time.

Quote:But yes, such a word as "libtard" is not the sort of word that you want to say if you don't want the door slamming on your face as if you are a cold-calling door-to-door salesman selling meat to a vegetarian. 

You are assuming that I'm even attempting to sell my point of view to you blue boomers.  I'm not.  Quite frankly I could care less what you think because I simply don't care and view that particular group as largely irrelevant except when they get in my way.  Rather I have found far more fertile ground on the right.

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Indeed as a black person I have found nothing more racist than what George W. Bush called the "soft bigotry of low expectations".  The problem among black people these days is not that they are barred from university or employment or even financial assistance.  Rather the problem is that a certain proportion of those things is reserved especially for them.  Furthermore, those blacks that get those reserved spots are often the scions of the black bourgeoisie and their taking of those spots (which if we do not adhere to the idea that someone is black therefore they must be incapable of obtaining said education [or whatever] without a set aside) means that they are taking a spot that ideally was intended to be taken up by someone of a lower economic station regardless their race.

In my experience we white middle class types do practically nothing for poor whites. We often ridicule poor whites especially from the Mountain South and related areas as "hillbillies", "peckerwoods", "crackers", "rednecks"... I have never experienced that myself, so I don't know how it feels.

By and large, and as an outside observer here, I would say that Whites in general (regardless of class) are less racially aware and awake than Blacks, Latinos and Asians.  Some would argue this is because they are the racial majority in this country or were at least so traditionally.  Personally having never been white myself I cannot be sure if that is the case, and I don't think I could really get an honest opinion about this from my husband.

This being said, some of my absolute best friends are these hillbillies, peckerwoods, crackers and rednecks.  But then again I live in the South and prefer a rural lifestyle anyway.

Quote:The black bourgeoisie does far more for poor blacks who show promise.

The black bourgeoisie is far more racially aware than the white bourgeoisie.  As a result, finding those blacks who show the most promise and assisting them elevates the race as a whole.  This is a very old trend.  Indeed it is precisely the action advocated by Booker T. Washington.

Booker T. Washington Wrote:Few things can help an individual more than to place responsibility on him, and to let him know that you trust him.

Quote:But know well: the black bourgeoisie does as well as possible at preparing their kids to be chips off the old block. That is no different than skilled workers edging their kids toward the skilled trades. 

Yes, and?  I would say that most parents, or at least good ones, want their child to have a life at least as prosperous, if not more so than their own.

Quote:It is up to parents, irrespective of origin, to promote learning among their children and to insist upon maximal rigor in K-12 education

In my experience there is a vast difference between learning and education.  I have met people with PHD's that I wouldn't trust to cross the street and high school drop outs that I trust to run my business in my absence.  (mind you I'm not absent much or often of course)

Quote:There is not and has never been a classless society.

True but also irrelevant.  A "classless society" is impossible without reducing everyone in that society to abject poverty given the uneven distribution of talent and ability.  Rather a "good" and "just" society should seek instead to make available to those who are able and talented to opportunities to advance themselves.  Once it has done so it is up to the individual to seize those opportunities.

I shan't bother arguing further on our individual circumstances as I've said elsewhere that I have seized those opportunities that presented themselves to me, where you PBR have not.

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Quote:The racial politics coming from the left for decades has been that blacks and other persons of color are incapable of obtaining education, job opportunities and even loans without crumb handouts from the Democratic party.  Anyone who actually thinks about this for more than five seconds actually realizes what this left is saying, and it rings loud and clear for someone is very conscious of his racial identity.  The Democrats have said and been saying since the 1960s at least "Because you are a Nigger, you need thus and so hand out from us and we of course need your vote.  Something for something, because we understand your ignorant nigger ass could never understand how to look up the Latin Quid Pro Quo."

Of course we all know the loving kindness that the Hard Right has for the poor in a society in which owners, executives, landlords, shysters, and loansharks are the kings. The Hard Rights treats all low proles badly irrespective of ethnicity and religion. We have a President who ridicules learning. This said, if social mobility no longer exists, then learning is strictly an elite practice that must price out multitudes.    

We aren't talking about the "hard right", whatever that is supposed to mean.  We are talking about the racial politics of the Left here.  Having been both on the left and the right I can say that the Right is largely unconcerned with racial politics of any stripe and more concerned with class politics.  Even the so-called alt-right, national socialists and their ilk are all creatures of the left.  Is the right more likely to be composed of the haves rather than the have-nots?  Certainly.  In order to be conservative (beyond some vague sense of social conservationism) one would have to have something worthy of being conserved.  However, that is not my point and never has been here.  

My point is, to put it bluntly, that the left seeks to teach people that because they are this race or that race, or this sex, or that sex or what have you that they are either especially privileged or degraded because of that status.  To not see that for the racism, sexism and homophobia it is is to blind oneself to the reality of what racism, sexism and homophobia are.

Booker T. Washington Wrote:No greater injury can be done to any youth than to let him feel that because he belongs to this or that race he will be advanced in life regardless of his own merits or efforts.

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Quote:Given the choice between that, and the Klan, I'll take the Klan any day of the week.  Their racism is naked and understood by even the most ignorant of persons.  Conversely the Soft Bigotry requires thought and reading between the lines.

NO YOU WON'T!

I don't think you are qualified to say what I will and won't do, say or think PBR.  You aren't my Massa and THIS NIGGER left the plantation quite a few years ago.

I also don't care what you think the Klan want to do, or would do if they could.  They can't and they never will be able to again.  We've already had a state of affairs akin to Nazi Germany in this country.  It was called the Jim Crow South and it was dominated by the DEMOCRATIC Party.  And when the Nazis were writing their racial laws what laws did they use?  Jim Crow laws.  Which were written by legislators from which party?  Why the Democratic one.  Leopards are not known for changing their spots.

I also won't bother to address your psudohistory of the Democratic Party either.  People can watch Dinesh D'Souza's movies and read his books for themselves. Much like they can read your swill for themselves.

And for the record I voted for Obama twice.  Not because he is half-black, but because John McCain picked a crazy person as his running mate, and Mitt Romney was just too fucking weird.