The Coronavirus

[Eric the Green]

(12-28-2021, 10:37 PM)TatteredGenX Wrote:

(12-28-2021, 05:16 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: There's more to Darwinism than survival of the fittest. But even as usually conceived, the concept does not account for the cooperation and the mutual dependence and aid that plays such a large role in life and evolution. The life of Nature certainly involves the occasional death of species and predation, but predation in the right balance; and predation is not what drives the system. Life happens and evolves because it wants to; because it desires to unfold. It can't be explained from outside itself only. Life is self-moving. It is not a mechanism; it's an organism. And that's different. Life expands and grows from within outward all at once. Machines are made or put together by humans from without inward. But Darwinism is mechanical. It is based on the science that was given permission by Descartes to view everything except the religious realm according to a fully-automatic model. But the model is a false myth.

Is the coronavirus a challenge to the survival of the human species? So it seems; and climate change too. But whether we are fit to survive depends on whether we use the abilities that we certainly have to deal with these situations.

There are species on the planet today who have survived since the earliest paleozoic eras. I imagine they will continue, and if we use our abilities we will survive and transform ourselves into post-humans right up to the time when the Sun gets too hot for life. By then, a billion years from now, we need to realize our spiritual nature and move on up into the Other Side, and also retain our ability to come onto this side wherever in the universe we wish.

I believe the Celestine Prophecy! As I understand it, but is not often explained outside the Redfield books, is that this is what we are destined to achieve if we fulfill it. This book I haven't read yet, but I read the first two: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret...th_Insight

We should not limit the horizons of what evolution is leading us to, by how we think we got to where we are today. Just as early hominids, or our shrewlike ancestral survivors of the asteroid, could not have conceived of cathedrals, symphonies, missions to Mars and the worldwide web.

Our fundamental notions of how we westerners view the world influence us more strongly than we realize. These are the two main "myths" or images through which we understand the world. They are both inadequate, even according to current science. Explained by Alan Watts.

Quote:Is the coronavirus a challenge to the survival of the human species? So it seems; and climate change too. But whether we are fit to survive depends on whether we use the abilities that we certainly have to deal with these situations.

Agreed. Just had a discussion about this somewhere else. 
What we do now have great bearing on whether any of us will be here come the 22nd century. We do at present have great power at the tip of our fingers. We have technology, we have brilliant scientists, we have humanitarians, we have climatic event forecasts, engineers, new materials, etc. 

We seem to lack the will however. This is what concerns me. 

Also let me say, I found the Fourth Turning book after reading both of yours Eric. Then found this forum, where I have been lurking for awhile. 

By way of introduction, I'm nobody special. Not an economist, historian, scientist, or astrologer. Just a history & astrology obsessed person living through our times & seeking to make sense of it.

I like this forum. Important things are being discussed. 

Eric--astrologically speaking, and also using the Turnings; when do you think this virus thing will have ran its course? 


PS: Nice to meet everyone

TatteredX ?

Thanks for reading my books, and coming to the forum

At a lecture on Jan.10th in San Francisco, I did predict that the big planetary lineup in March 2020 portended a health crisis for the USA. I didn't predict it would last this long, but the crisis and our varied responses to it fit the picture of a fourth turning crisis period. I thought in general that the economy would be on an upswing in the 2020s, which is at odds with the views of many concerned people, including other astrologers. That seems to be happening, but the pandemic rolls on.

I don't seem to have any further astrological insights now about just exactly when it will end, or at least die down to a steady nuisance rather than a crisis. The main reason for this though was predictable, and in general, I predicted it, and that is the divided state of our nation in which at least 40% have become hooked on false ideologies and follow a mad cult leader. The pandemic has been politicized by those who follow the cult, and this has resulted in too many people refusing to get vaccinated. They are mostly the ones getting sick during this new surge. This despite that the cult leader, who actually got the vaccines going anyway, is now saying that he recommends vaccination-- although not mandates.

The division of the country is the main trait and the main crisis in this 4T, as I have said all along. Only when this "red state" or red-county cult is sufficiently defeated politically will the 1T develop and at least an exhausted consensus unfold. The name of this 4T has largely been settled on as "the cold civil war," and now the question is how hot will it get before it ends in about 2029. Given the stubbornness of the resistance to vaccines among the cult, it may be then before the pandemic will be considered to be over. But I think it will decline this year.

The virus is more contageous as it develops variants, and also during the winter when more people are indoors and celebrating holidays. Refusal to require the drug companies to make the vaccines available worldwide is a big problem, because it means that more variants will appear-- as they already have.