The Coronavirus

[Eric the Green]

(01-11-2022, 01:58 AM)TatteredGenX Wrote: Hi Eric. Thank you so much for your insights. 
LOVE your books. Hope you will write another one soon.
Thinking on how to phrase things, as I too look at life more with an astrological lens; albeit an amateur version. 
With that lens--but still keeping the turnings in firm mind--I keep looking at early this year (Pluto) and 2025/26. 

One thing I have not been able to glean--is the Pandemic aspect. It flew straight past me in April 2020 as well. I knew something was up, (every planet and their dog in conjunction in Cap), but would never have guessed. 
I keep up on international news quite a bit. Would love it if this pandemic--as horrible as it is--serves as the sole ramp-up to finish off this 4T. I grew up in Europe, firmly connected to WWII, and there are things brewing. It looks to me that something else may well have additional impact; Russia / China comes to mind, along with the large set of Eurasian countries which now have large authoritarian movements.

Thoughts on that?

Thanks for your thoughts and questions. I don't think we'll be out of the 4T until the cold civil war is at least settled enough so that one side gets to finally set policy. If it's the blue side, the 1T will proceed and the saeculum will continue. If the red side wins, I doubt we will enter a 1T and the saeculum may be over as we enter a dark age. I still prefer to think the pandemic will just be a feature of the middle of the 4T and end before the 4T does. But, who knows; it does seem to go on and on as we continue to be incompetent in dealing with it despite the scientific breakthroughs. I hope it doesn't end up like the Bubonic Plague. But if so, it will certainly seem like cycles are ending like in the medieval days and that it will play a role in our descent into total decline.

Quote:Agree completely about the division being the core issue driving this 4T, and on a global scale. I'm glad to see you think it will be 2029, rather than later. I know it is 8 years away--but it beats sitting in this situation until 2036. 

I keep looking at the years 500 through the 1700's for parallels to this pandemic. While there is zero reason for it to reach the magnitude of the Bubonic Plague--I wonder.  I know grand cycle wise we are not there (many many thanks for the spreadsheet), and I take great comfort from that, however 1 million infections per day coupled with massive climate change has me drawing connections to Krakatoa and the rats that caused the plague. I have not gone as far as looking at the saeculum and the turnings for that era yet.
Perhaps I 'enjoy' scaring myself, but not that much.

That said--you and Tarnas got me through 2020. By the time I started to understand, I felt much calmer. Looking at the BIG picture is good. 

I hope my original big picture predictions hold. It looks bad now, with voting rights reform defeated, and Biden and Democrats down in the polls, but things often look dark during a 4T and we have always found our way out of it. It doesn't mean all problems solved; just enough so that we can move ahead smoothly and follow through in the 1T and experience a new awakening in the 2T.

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Is there somewhere else on the internet you frequent, where I could ask you all the things that would be off-topic for this forum? 
I love the socio-political angle of the 4th Turning, the fact it was written by economists, and thoroughly enjoyed learning about the archetypes. It is a great book for sure. 

And I must confess--I devour Mundane Astrology books. 

If there isn't, that's fine too, I will just do my level best to stick tight to the archetypes and the saeculum. 

So nice to get to talk to you. 

EDIT: Full HTML edit anywhere? I "killed" the quotes.

This group here was pretty well set up, and unlike the previous version from years ago, this one has a forum that mentions astrology. You can see it in the list on the front page. You were probably already there. So astrology is cool here, although it is not respected by the majority of S&H fans in general.
http://generational-theory.com/forum/forum-19.html

Since I am the admin of the fourth turning discussion group on facebook, along with Steve and one other guy, it should be pretty open to astrology too.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/396877864887524

I mostly go to facebook. Here are 3 mundane astrology groups, all good:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mundaneastrologers
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mundaneastro
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pro.world.astrologers

Steve posted a list here of other generations and 4T groups. I don't know which one to recommend though.
http://generational-theory.com/forum/thr...tpost.html

Thanks again and best wishes.