The Coronavirus

[Classic-Xer]

(02-05-2022, 06:03 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-05-2022, 04:42 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

Quote: David Horn

(02-05-2022, 03:46 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: It was a business decision. Hospitals need revenues to function and noncompliance would result in a major loss of revenues. So, are they going to fire vaccinated employees and refuse vaccinated patients and prohibit vaccinated visitors who can get sick and spread covid too? They should if they need to take all steps necessary to keep our patients, workforce, visitors and communities safe. It's hard to believe that so many people with college degrees are going along with nonsense. You know that vaccinated patients and visitors and vaccinated employees can get sick and spread covid too right. Everyone pretty much knows that's the truth these days but the Biden Administration and a bunch of libtards. I assume that Biden doesn't care about the truth at this point. On another note, I've been directly exposed to more people with covid (all of them vaccinated people who were sick for multiple days) the last three months than I have the last two years and I haven't got sick with covid yet. Is it luck or is it natural immunity? I've tested negative two times a week for several weeks.

Once again, you read the wrong lesson from a good choice by Mayo Clinic.  The Clinic wasn't worried about their business model -- at least not nearly as much as it worried about its mission.  You can't run a medical practice if that practice allows the staff to sicken each other and, more to the point, the clinic's patients.  While i might favor separating the unvaccinated patients from the vaccinated -- even charging the unvaccinated more for care -- Mayo isn't doing that, nor are any other medical practices I know of.  

If you drove your car with no brakes, and did it intentionally, the legal system would come down hard on you when you finally had an accident -- as they should.  COVID is no different, yet the medical profession continues to hold out a helping hand and bear a burden imposed on them on purpose by the 'freedom front'.

Can you get sick from covid and spread it to others and possibly kill other despite being vaccinated? Can you die from covid despite being vaccinated? Yes you can just like me or anyone else at this point. Whatever superiority you thought you had or may have gained with being vaccinated no longer exists today. Like I said, I am amazed that so many people with college degrees are still bowing down and going along with the blue nonsense these days. I've always thought vaccinating healthy people and forcing healthy people to get vaccinated was unwarranted and a waste of time, money and resources. You seem to have a bit of a ruthless/careless side to you. That's good, I won't feel guilty when people eventually start blowing blue heads off and rounding up blues for deportation and so forth.

You don't want to hear this but if you do get covid and you most likely will since we're a couple of vaccines behind and nobody knows the specific characteristics or deadliness of the next covid variant, your chances of survival will be significantly less than mine since my body already gotten to know covid pretty well. Alpha didn't kill me. Beta didn't kill me or anyone that I know who got it at the time. BTW, I knew lots of people who got it at the time. Delta didn't kill me or anyone that I know ( vaccinated or non vaccinated) either. Omicron has claimed one so far. He was 94 years old and ready to pass on and preferred to die at home with loved ones by his side vs dying alone in a hospital bed.  Do you or any of the blue morons have a problem with him having the right to make that decision?

Classic, you think medical science is based on a few people you know. It isn't. Science shows that natural immunity is weaker than vaccines. Yes the vaccines' effectiveness seems to wane over time, but those who got the booster are over 90 times less likely to die from covid than the unvaccinated. Those are facts, not based on people that I know.

There will be more covid19 variants as long as greedy drug companies have their way and are not required to supply mRNA vaccine patents to the world. Right now the world is starting to produce its own, but it has a long way to go. So our focus on the rich people of the world has come back to bite us, and likely will again; thanks to your pro-greed, pro-rich people philosophy, Classic Xer.

I've heard the opposite is true as usual. Medical science is based on the results of studies over time. Preliminary studies suggested natural immunity was about equal to the vaccines in preventing death. The large scale studies that followed (studies that took place over the coarse of last year) concluded that natural immunity and its overall effectiveness (prevention of sickness, spread and death) was far superior to that of the vaccines.